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Why Harry Snubbed SIGHT & SOUND'S Poll Of The World's Most Renowned Film Critics and Directors Regarding The Best Films
Why did I snub SIGHT & SOUND’s Poll of the World’s Most Renowned Film Critics and Directors?
Because I hate these sorts of things. I loathe them. When I was working on my book and the publishers demanded that I include 3 top ten lists, I bitched and moaned for months. I don’t like them. I wrote my lists with the most temporary of flippant whims. Throwing in BARBARELLA and DAWN OF THE DEAD, to thumb my nose at such lists. Not because I don’t love those films, I do and they have every right to be anywhere on anyone’s lists, but personally… WHY CHOOSE TEN?
Why give star ratings and thumb positions? Why give top ten lists at the end of the year? Why not just list the significant films of the year?
As a film lover and cineaste I have a personal film collection that approaches and might currently pass 7000 titles. That’s my list. Those are the films I choose to live with. As I look over the lists made by critics and directors, I realize that nearly all the films listed are in my collection, but more than that, I notice the films not on the lists.
The movies that make us love watching movies. This year, Buster Keaton and Charles Chaplin left the lists. Too silly I suppose. Westerns have left the world of the elite. Musicals are nearly all, but gone. The heavy stuff is all there. The weighty significant films, the ones that advanced the art form, that pushed the form of film forward. Contributed depth of field, overlapping sound design, the French New Wave, Italian Neo-Realists. Ahh, the heady stuff. The works that when taught in film school breed pretension and self-importance. The ‘significant’ films. The Jack Handey DEEP THOUGHT flicks.
Also, the silents are being forgotten now. BATTLESHIP POTEMKIN over METROPOLIS or WIND or GREED or NAPOLEON or PANDORA’S BOX or THIEF OF BAGDAD or THE UNKNOWN or NOSFERATU… not in my book. POTEMKIN isn’t even the best Sergei Eisenstein flick in my book, that’s ALEXANDER NEVSKY, of course I’d love to see the Eisenstein films he shot in Mexico in the forties, but unfortunately… I can’t seem to find those anywhere. Que Lastima!
I find it astonishing that they remember Renoir’s THE RULES OF THE GAME now, but when they were writing their reviews of Altman’s GOSFORD PARK, they couldn’t remember it. And I have to ask this… Which film has affected cinema more, Murnau’s SUNRISE or NOSFERATU? I’m not knocking SUNRISE, its in my collection, but the mere process of listing these things and giving it such authority devalues the others.
We are in the age of computers, where you can print as long a list as you can conceive. You don’t have to completely snub the last 22 years of film because it can’t squeeze into the precious list of ten.
I don’t want to know Roger Ebert or Richard Corliss or Cameron Crowe of John Waters or Quentin Tarantino or Bernardo Bertolucci or Michel Ciment or Milos Forman’s top ten lists. I want to hear what films they own. What movies did they add to their collections at home in the last 10 years? If you had Steven Spielberg’s Film Library… what would be in it? What is in Takashi Miike’s Film library? How about Spike Jonze?
These are the lists that really make the difference, the lists that we really learn from. When you ask for 10 films you’re going to get a couple of different types of lists.
You’re going to get one list that is made up of the films that the person making the list makes you want to think they think are the greatest films of all time, because they are the films of the highest regard and as a critic and a director it is their job to guard their station atop the great bastion of films for all time. These are the films they are all frustrated that the world does not hold in wide esteem. That pop-culture didn’t pop to. Now there is a chance that the films these people listed on their list, well… there’s a chance they haven’t seen some of the titles in the past 20 years… if that recent. They are films that they were taught to respect, came to respect and will teach to respect. Because these are the respected films of all time. They are… IMPORTANT (all caps and twice on Sunday!)
You’re also going to get lists by wild cards. Folks that hate the ideas of these lists and are going to fight and struggle for anarchy on such lists. To mention films for the sake of calling attention to them because they hate the titles that usually appear on these lists. Both John Waters and Quentin Tarantino did a wonderful job of this. This was going to be my tact as well. I was going to select my favorite film of 10 different Genres and Sub-Genres of film. Then I thought… Why contribute to the circus?
If I want you to discover Capra’s THE LOST HORIZON or Damiano’s DEEP THROAT or Selick’s THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS or Witney’s THE GOLDEN STALLION or Bacon’s FOOTLIGHT PARADE or Lang’s SPIES or Mankiewicz’ THE FIVE FINGERS or Hitchcock’s STRANGERS ON A TRAIN or Bava’s DANGER DIABOLIK or Clouse’s ENTER THE DRAGON or Sturges’ UNFAITHFULLY YOURS or Friedkin’s SORCEROR or Corman’s ROCK ALL NIGHT or Truffaut’s THE MAN WHO LOVED WOMEN or Kuroda’s KOZURE OKAMI: JIGOKU E IKUZO! DAIGORO or Peckinpah’s CONVOY or Iglesia’s EL DIA DEL DIABLO or whatever film I have sitting around this house of mine, then I’ll reference it, talk about it, let you see it. Hell, every now and again I post the incomplete inventory online for folks to ponder at.
The key thing for you, when looking at these lists is this. If you have never heard of the films mentioned, find an alternative video store (if possible) and watch them. Don’t just randomly call these guys prigs and snobs… Watch the films, then you’ve earned the right to call them prigs and snobs, if that’s how you feel.
I’ve always been fascinated with folks that want their opinion AVERAGED in. I suppose it is a habit of Democracy. To have a vote on things. I don’t vote with a pollster though on films, I vote with my library, my collection, my choices.
The fact is, we are not on an endless voyage through the universe on a ship that could only spare data space for 10 movies. The great thing about technology is we don’t have to pick just 10, we can try to get them all. Whether by recording off of television, or supporting alternative Video stores like SCARECROW or DAVE’S VIDEO or PEDAZO CHUNK or VULCAN VIDEO. We have the chance to affect change in our fellow film fans by sitting them down and making them watch the missing pieces. By infecting others with the mania, the love and the passion for film.
There are more than ten great films of all time. More than ten great directors. I mean, I’m sure in choosing 10 great directors, they didn’t think that the most perfect director was Charles Laughton… He made one film. It is a classic, a work of genius and has stood the test of time. NIGHT OF THE HUNTER. The film has affected filmmakers like Tim Burton, Martin Scorsese, Guillermo Del Toro and Steven Spielberg, who have in turn affected others.
I can’t stand these list things. I don’t like them, not because they don’t mirror my list, but because they exclude so much. When I received the request from SIGHT & SOUND I responded with a question… Are these to be the best films, the most significant films or my favorite films. I was told My Favorite.
With very few exceptions, I doubt sincerely people were listing their favorite ten films. The final lists read with the pretension of choosing the BEST and Greatest Significance and not Favorites.
For example: CITIZEN KANE is considered by many to be the best most perfect film ever made. However, when you talk to many cineastes, they choose Welles’ TOUCH OF EVIL as their favorite, and if you go further and ask what their favorite movie that Welles was associated with was, they’ll say THE THIRD MAN. And if you ask what the most important film he created was… well that’s CITIZEN KANE.
Now if you take the absurd grouping of the first two GODFATHERS (note they didn’t throw the third one in there…. SHOCK!), THE GODFATHER (and the sequel… singular) are generally considered Coppola’s BEST movies. If you think about the most important film that Coppola made was… I’d say that would have to be APOCALYPSE NOW, but that isn’t even the most important Vietnam film… Which depending on your opinion of Vietnam, could be anything from THE GREEN BERETS to COMING HOME to THE DEER HUNTER to PLATOON to FULL METAL JACKET to THE KILLING FIELDS to BORN ON THE FOURTH OF JULY to… well… you get the idea.
These things are so subjective. For me, I suppose the most productive thing about printing a collection of top ten this and that’s of film is the discussion and the arguments that follow. Personally, that is a good thing. It spurs conversation. Fosters serious contemplation of a beloved art form and hopefully educates a few about some directors and titles they perhaps would only hear about in a Film History class. These are not the titles you’ll see in BLOCKBUSTER necessarily. They are also not the films you’d program a 24 hour film festival with… heh… hmmmm… perhaps that’s the best way to prove my point. Naaaah, I wouldn’t do that to the BNATers would I?
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Reader Talkback
taking the piss by ellroy | Aug 12th, 2002 09:10:30 AM | You're right about limited
lists... by geekzapoppin | Aug 12th, 2002 09:11:18 AM | Well, if you're talking
about favorites... by RenoNevada2000 | Aug 12th, 2002 09:14:15 AM | Amen, Harry by Homer Jay | Aug 12th, 2002 09:14:34 AM | One more thing... by Homer Jay | Aug 12th, 2002 09:19:02 AM | C'mon by Harry_Caulx | Aug 12th, 2002 09:19:21 AM | It's for hairdressers and
GQ readers by reni | Aug 12th, 2002 09:23:10 AM | Top Ten Lists by Ali_Arikan | Aug 12th, 2002 09:25:55 AM | Agreed by Alex_V | Aug 12th, 2002 09:27:44 AM | Whoa, whoa, just hold on one
second.... by rev_skarekroe | Aug 12th, 2002 09:34:42 AM | Sight and Sounds Top Ten by darabbi | Aug 12th, 2002 09:36:08 AM | Arbiters of taste by Buck Teeth Soh | Aug 12th, 2002 09:40:35 AM | Totally disagree Harry by TheMuddyFunster | Aug 12th, 2002 09:48:19 AM | Renoir's "The Rules of the
Game" maybe? by Smilin'Jack Ruby | Aug 12th, 2002 09:59:32 AM | Since when is Harry one of the
world's most renowned film
cr by Atticus Finch | Aug 12th, 2002 10:03:01 AM | I also find it astonishing
that they remember Jean Renoir by Arnzilla | Aug 12th, 2002 10:09:55 AM | La R by Ali_Arikan | Aug 12th, 2002 10:10:22 AM | harry sold out to new line? by Erik_Richmond | Aug 12th, 2002 10:13:00 AM | "Cineastes" and Deep Throat by Wolverine1987 | Aug 12th, 2002 10:16:45 AM | La Regale de Jeu, not Remains
of the Day... by Cutter's Way | Aug 12th, 2002 10:17:21 AM | oh yeah....you`re so right by drjones | Aug 12th, 2002 10:37:18 AM | I blame... by whoneedscool | Aug 12th, 2002 10:44:43 AM | I love you Harry. You are the
best. by rubycon | Aug 12th, 2002 10:46:47 AM | ok....and if there`s a
average list it should be
similar to the by drjones | Aug 12th, 2002 10:56:20 AM | top ten lists by AZJim | Aug 12th, 2002 11:00:06 AM | Typical hypocrisy/hollow
grandstanding at AICN by Veidt | Aug 12th, 2002 11:01:42 AM | Lighten Up, Francis by Buck_Turgidson | Aug 12th, 2002 11:03:49 AM | Vin Disel as "Charles Foster
Kane." by Uncapie | Aug 12th, 2002 11:05:55 AM | Harry? by benben | Aug 12th, 2002 11:18:19 AM | God, I'm terrified to ask
what kinds of films Takashi
Miike by EL Duderino | Aug 12th, 2002 11:18:56 AM | "SORCEROR???" by Theta | Aug 12th, 2002 11:21:22 AM | oh harry by benben | Aug 12th, 2002 11:23:28 AM | QT by JohnnyBarrett | Aug 12th, 2002 11:58:32 AM | Harry has a point. by Wee Willie | Aug 12th, 2002 12:02:36 PM | you're right... by timothycarey | Aug 12th, 2002 12:07:36 PM | It's just a ploy by those
Criterion bastards to get us
to bu by Filthy Fox | Aug 12th, 2002 12:08:09 PM | doesnt this seem a tad
preemptive? by hager | Aug 12th, 2002 12:33:12 PM | Ah the ol Film Geek vs. Film
Snob clash by Trav McGee | Aug 12th, 2002 12:40:24 PM | give em hell, harry by joeypogi | Aug 12th, 2002 12:42:06 PM | Uh, like, New Line is part of
Time/AOL... by straxboy | Aug 12th, 2002 12:49:43 PM | HEY HARRY!! by EliCash | Aug 12th, 2002 01:01:59 PM | Just a little correction ... by Creamery Butter | Aug 12th, 2002 01:11:38 PM | Time to turn in my film geek
ID by swavill | Aug 12th, 2002 01:13:19 PM | Roger Ebert knew his peers
would be looking over his
shoulder by Electric Tsunami | Aug 12th, 2002 01:23:29 PM | Victor Fleming by gertrude perkins | Aug 12th, 2002 01:57:16 PM | Oh, aren't we feeling high
and mighty? I'm sure
Sight a by wasp | Aug 12th, 2002 02:03:06 PM | Defending "Citizen Kane" (not
that anyone was attacking it,
per by ThePoleOfJustice | Aug 12th, 2002 02:12:50 PM | I'm still trying to grasp
something here. by trumanburbank | Aug 12th, 2002 02:34:04 PM | "As a film lover and cineaste
I have a personal film
collection by Shabba McDoo | Aug 12th, 2002 02:43:58 PM | HARRY, WHEN DO YOU EVER HAVE
TIME TO WATCH ALL 7,000 FILMS?
SOUN by Sith Witch | Aug 12th, 2002 02:44:42 PM | Just write down ten films
harry.... by badboymason | Aug 12th, 2002 03:24:26 PM | "Please explain how you have
the time to shower, eat, have
sex, by spideyman1218 | Aug 12th, 2002 03:26:36 PM | Very nice, Harry. by Halloween68 | Aug 12th, 2002 03:29:25 PM | forget the ny times critics --
why weren't these
DIRECTORS p by timothycarey | Aug 12th, 2002 03:32:51 PM | Citizen Kane isn't
IMPORTANT, it's actually
entertaining by Morton | Aug 12th, 2002 04:07:28 PM | you know what? Citizen Kane
isn't on my favorites
list. by PriestYoungblood | Aug 12th, 2002 04:33:09 PM | AICN - The dumbing down of
film history by mrbrains | Aug 12th, 2002 05:02:45 PM | Kabinet.org by odysseus | Aug 12th, 2002 05:17:54 PM | Any list that don't
include THE FISH THAT SAVED
PITTSBURGH c by Roguewriter | Aug 12th, 2002 05:20:25 PM | Great Talkback Going here...
However... by Fearsme | Aug 12th, 2002 06:02:41 PM | It's called an Image
Consultant... by hudsucker | Aug 12th, 2002 06:30:21 PM | Why people who pick STAR WARS
films as the best films ever
made by Nordling | Aug 12th, 2002 06:51:40 PM | You wanker. by Goldberry | Aug 12th, 2002 07:17:18 PM | BEST OF LISTS by darkblackpast | Aug 12th, 2002 07:24:35 PM | Danger Diabolik? Of MST3K
fame? by Darth Taun Taun | Aug 12th, 2002 07:29:34 PM | Harry wasn't able to write
his Top 10 List... by PJM | Aug 12th, 2002 07:34:57 PM | Who cares, Harry by NFLRefugee | Aug 12th, 2002 07:55:35 PM | irony by abcdefz2 | Aug 12th, 2002 08:19:44 PM | yawn by Lelon | Aug 12th, 2002 09:28:11 PM | MOVIES WE GOT MOVIES WE GOT
LOTS AND LOTS OF MOVIES by TomVee | Aug 12th, 2002 10:03:56 PM | Kubrick's Best , IMO, is
Barry Lyndon by DunbarLives | Aug 12th, 2002 10:04:27 PM | sorcerer by hank quinlan | Aug 12th, 2002 11:43:45 PM | Well said, Harry by St.Buggering | Aug 12th, 2002 11:50:43 PM | Citizen Kane -- the best ever
film ever made? by joeypogi | Aug 13th, 2002 12:06:12 AM | Top 10 Flowers of All Time by tav | Aug 13th, 2002 01:19:43 AM | You can't trust a person
until you've seen them
handle w by eraser_x | Aug 13th, 2002 01:45:27 AM | My top ten list by wasp | Aug 13th, 2002 02:41:29 AM | ah, in_pari_delicto by wasp | Aug 13th, 2002 02:46:02 AM | to Buck Turgidson and the
"desert island" list by tav | Aug 13th, 2002 03:49:19 AM | my desert island list--- not
that anyone cares, hehe. by tav | Aug 13th, 2002 04:20:05 AM | A tad hypocritical.... by ed_wood_jr | Aug 13th, 2002 04:26:15 AM | Alternative ways to do it by wmorris99 | Aug 13th, 2002 04:38:34 AM | Harry is sucking the cock of
satan and has fucking zero
credibil by Nisioboy | Aug 13th, 2002 05:34:44 AM | Say what you will, Harry... by CleverUserName | Aug 13th, 2002 06:42:56 AM | Only 10 entries allowed? F*ck!
That means no space left for
othe by Lord_Soth | Aug 13th, 2002 07:37:34 AM | Hank, if you love "Sorcerer" by Hud | Aug 13th, 2002 09:38:08 AM | you're full of shit by Josey Wales | Aug 13th, 2002 10:12:10 AM | remove that homepage list by brundle | Aug 13th, 2002 11:50:46 AM | Hey, PMJ by hudsucker | Aug 13th, 2002 02:07:03 PM | This clears up some stuff
that's been bothering
me.... by RobinP | Aug 13th, 2002 02:13:21 PM | Pathetic by Funketeer | Aug 13th, 2002 04:46:28 PM | Incomplete Inventory by R2D237 | Aug 13th, 2002 05:33:59 PM | Subjective by Scoobygudge | Aug 13th, 2002 06:40:26 PM | Above by Scoobygudge | Aug 13th, 2002 06:48:54 PM | A musician once said that by eraser_x | Aug 13th, 2002 06:53:15 PM | JEEZus! by ThePoleOfJustice | Aug 13th, 2002 06:54:31 PM | Foul Pole by eraser_x | Aug 13th, 2002 07:46:38 PM | Why People Bitch About Harry by Funketeer | Aug 13th, 2002 07:46:54 PM | oh yeah, by eraser_x | Aug 13th, 2002 07:52:42 PM | I too enjoyed Citizen Kane, by Almost Sexy | Aug 13th, 2002 08:25:47 PM | Y'know, Eraser X, et al... by ThePoleOfJustice | Aug 13th, 2002 08:59:24 PM | Personal attacks are
warranted... by danny damnation | Aug 13th, 2002 09:09:39 PM | ThePoleOfJustice: by PJM | Aug 13th, 2002 10:31:16 PM | VH1 presents:The all-list
channel... by Pan Demonium | Aug 13th, 2002 10:43:33 PM | the hypocrisy is too thick
here by roach motel | Aug 14th, 2002 12:18:30 AM | Give'em hell Harry! by MaryM | Aug 14th, 2002 01:01:38 AM | Harry Snubs Sight and Sound
poll by LeeHill | Aug 14th, 2002 01:09:26 AM | you are all invited... by Frank Black | Aug 14th, 2002 01:16:05 AM | Can Harry afford 7000 films? by wasp | Aug 14th, 2002 02:10:38 AM | Can I be a cineaste, too? by Dead Last | Aug 14th, 2002 03:27:27 AM | Wow, Harry... you're so
non-conforming. How important
you m by LlGHTST0RMER | Aug 14th, 2002 03:50:31 AM | PJM... you fucking NAILED it. by LlGHTST0RMER | Aug 14th, 2002 04:01:13 AM | BadAssUncleFucker by Cysm Ltyh | Aug 14th, 2002 06:00:37 AM | thepoleofjustice by benben | Aug 14th, 2002 06:34:20 AM | Top Ten List by scousemouse | Aug 14th, 2002 07:23:03 AM | Sorry, Shade, nuttin
personal... by Roguewriter | Aug 14th, 2002 08:46:34 AM | Badassunclefucka..... by Wolverine1987 | Aug 14th, 2002 10:45:17 AM | Cysm Ltyh by Berserker666 | Aug 14th, 2002 12:08:32 PM | MY TOP 10 LIST by thetruthman | Aug 14th, 2002 12:38:00 PM | What do you want, a fucking
medal? by tucson | Aug 14th, 2002 03:03:18 PM | Cysm Ltyh ... seriously... by PriestYoungblood | Aug 14th, 2002 04:13:04 PM | The Talk Back Crutch by hudsucker | Aug 14th, 2002 05:46:54 PM | @@@@@@ THE TOP 10 LIST SHOULD
BE: THE 10 FILMS YOU WATCHED
MOST by Riedenschneider | Aug 14th, 2002 06:16:55 PM | @@@@@@ THE TOP 10 LIST SHOULD
BE: THE 10 FILMS YOU WATCHED
MOST by Riedenschneider | Aug 14th, 2002 06:17:44 PM | Harry, did you read the
accompanying Sight and Sound
article? by zazzx_ | Aug 14th, 2002 07:01:51 PM | beserker666 by Cysm Ltyh | Aug 14th, 2002 11:22:49 PM | JACKIE CHAN AND JET LI ARE
DOING A MOVIE TOGETHER
SCHEDULED FOR by JP3183 | Aug 15th, 2002 12:38:32 AM | JACKIE CHAN AND JET LI ARE
DOING A MOVIE TOGETHER
SCHEDULED FOR by JP3183 | Aug 15th, 2002 12:44:43 AM | My 10 best by dr. robert | Aug 15th, 2002 01:05:50 AM | 10 movies I own on DVD 4
eva!!! KOOL!!! by ShmiShmoe | Aug 15th, 2002 03:15:59 AM | : Cysm Ltyh , not to be a dick
but... by PriestYoungblood | Aug 15th, 2002 09:54:30 AM | more lists by timothycarey | Aug 15th, 2002 10:17:55 AM | Pole throws like a girl by AZJim | Aug 15th, 2002 11:56:40 AM | collecting 7,000 titles equal
time wasted by lawired1 | Aug 15th, 2002 12:05:16 PM | "Are you secretly HOPING that
Harry is forced by lack of
interes by timothycarey | Aug 15th, 2002 12:36:21 PM | See what you're saying,
Harry... by Phalex | Aug 15th, 2002 12:47:01 PM | priestyoungbloodandbitemedough
boy by Cysm Ltyh | Aug 15th, 2002 08:27:17 PM |
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