The Force is being felt in bite size televised pieces! ROTS commercials!

Cant wait to see Gugino naked in this. Good stuff.

Great to see the commercial on-line in quicktime format. Very excited to see this film on its opening weekend.

i hope this is all they release before may 19th, or we will have seen most of the movie.

I'm in before the flaming. I think most everything here looks great. Padmes lines are great. "Your breaking my heart." Almost broke my heart.

I hope the dialogue is better than it was in AOTC.

THis looks great....better then all the others....

...has always been part of the reason that Anikan want to the darkside. Doesn't she die or something and that was one of the big things that push him over the edge? no matter... I liked the movies. I think they are all good.

The second one tragedy that the guy claimed was so great was actually the weakest IMO. Particularly that poor deliver of the "you're breaking my heart" line. OH well ...... even if the acting and dialogie is weak like the first two at the very least there might be some decent action this time.

Pshaw, those ruled.

Omg... I've forgiven a lot to enjoy these films despite naysayers but man did Hayden's dialogue just sound awkward and "not enough intensity" as George would put it.

These trailers look good. If the film delivers, my expectations shall be pleasantly confounded. Still haven't decided whether Ep 2 sucked more than anything has ever sucked in the entire history of sucking, or was an insidiously brilliant satire on recent American politics.

They still rule though. Hmm, no right click for saving eh.... Thank the maker for Firefox then.

I agree, the anticipation is high, now that we no longer have Lord Of the Rings Trilogy to behold, but I must say the expectations are low..sure it will be dark, but when Lucas proclaims "TITANIC IN SPACE" i shudder...Why can't we have more of a "REAL CANCUN in SPACE" instead, I wanna see Miss Portman's Titties for reals this time! None of that CLOSER bullshit!

you can see what's happpening to the US just by watching Ep II and III. Emperor Bush used the fear of "the terrorists" to begin a slow assult on our civil liberties and stir up the mindless mob known the religious right (aka - the american taliban), and the dumb ass americans ate it up without question.

As I've said before, I am fully rooting for this film. But the greatest shortcoming I predict it will have (and there will undoubtedly be many), is that H.C. will not have nearly enough screen presence to "sell" Darth Vader. His "intense" turn in AOTC when he slaughters the sandpeople was painfully pathetic. The first word that comes to mind when I think of Vader is "evil." The first word that comes to mind when I think of Mr. C. is "punk," and I don't think I'm alone. Now, Vader's daunting frame is a nearly impossible one to fill-out, to be sure. But I can think of very few A-list actors who are less-equipped for the part than this guy. Jimmy Smits could do it better. Hell, Natalie Portman could.

should have been Anakin. H C is just a spoilt miidle class arse. It's like having Prince Harry as Batman.

i feel aotc was not entirely his fault most of it was the writing, they turned him into a whining sissy little mama's boy... they coulda made him a badass that was just to sure of himself

is there no topic that you liberals can't turn into a rant about bush??!!!.... i mean i could mention cheese you people would turn in into bush sucks..did you not learn anything? that platform didn't work, come up with some ideas of your own instead of bush-bashing and maybe america will listen.. let go your hate, hate leads to suffering.....

Man, Lucas should really know what he's doing by the time he releases Episode 4. LOL

"Left - Right... I'm the guy with the Lightsaber." - Jedi Ash *** The MOVIE looks great and I'll be there 12:01 AM - no matter what film, Political and/or Religion haters say.

If it weren't for the first two showing original footage, I would have called bullshit. Last one is just the condensed version of the teaser. Harry's right, tradegy ROCKED!!!!

I trust that in the final movie that scar Anakin gained in the Clone Wars cartoon series won't be leaping from the left to right of his face as it does in this trailer...

NO! I can't distinguish between fiction and reality! Democracy Bad!

I akm now convinced that the lemmings that scream "wooden acting!" or "Crappy delivery!" are unable to think for themselves and are hating just to hate or to try and stir the pot. The funny thing is, they'll be the first ones in line for the midnight showing...some probably already are.

Exactly what great deeds has Anakin done that Luke feels the need to vindicate him. He was a brat kid, an obnoxious (violent tempered) teenager and at the first hint of power turned to the darkside...does he rescue some kittens in this film or what?

Ug! Listening him deliver those lines makes me a little queasy. Ok, not a little, actually alot. How did this kid become Vader? Sure, he has the expressions on his face that represent a man of pure evil, but I thought Lucas promised that the poor dialogue and dialogue delivery had been already taken care of. If I was Lucas I'd go and shoot those scenes over again because the kid sucks plain and simple. Sorry, but there are more qualified 20-25 year-old actors out there who have the acting chops to pull off Anakin. I'll still love "STAR WARS" and still love everything that has the "STAR WARS" logo on it, but I will never like this kid period. I mean even watching "CLONE WARS" as much as I love the banter, the dialogue, and everything but some of the scenes feel wooden also. I don't know... I still have hope in "ROTS" and I still think it'll be very good and I'll like it very much, but Hayden Christiansen sucks. He is the Paul Thomas Anderson of the acting world.

Hopefully the effect will look better by the time the movie is released

Well, when?!?!? Dammit!!!!

im assuming anakin's good deeds were during the clone wars

I'm with Lynx. HC is actually quite good (but I'll add the caveat) when cast properly. He's terrific in "Shattered Glass," and I think he does his damn best in the Star Wars flicks, but he just doesn't get it. Neither does Natalie Portman, and I thinnk she's absolutely wonderful in most of the other things she's been in (Closer, Beautiful Girls, Leon come to mind). But SW ain't realism, obviously. It's quite hightened and our two younguns just don't grasp how to deliver the dialogue. Ian McDiarmid and Ewan McGregor do, but they don't. I am glad to see that Lucas seems to be playing to Portman's strengths here, instead of putting her in the middle of action scenes, where she's clueless...

FUCK sin city.

"Anakin, your force crushing my larynx..." I'm still looking forward to this but Lucas' painful dance with dialogue still leaks through and makes one wince.

Lest we forget the truly brilliant performance delivered by Mark Hamill in the original trilogy.

because as much as I hate t oadmit it HC's delivery was way the fuck off in those clips. If that can't find two fucking good clips fom him to put in a 15 second ad we , my friends are fucked.

If, according to these last three films this is what Anakin Skywalker did before he turned to the darkside why all the reverence? The Alec Guiness dialogue made him sound like a saintly war hero.

There are a few ways to look at the

How is "You're breaking my heart" an example of bad dialogue? Does it sound awkward? Do you think no one has ever said that to a betraying spouse? It's melodrama, folks. Do I need to direct you to the lover's quarrel between Han & Leia at the end of Return of the Jedi, quite possibly the worst writing/acting in the entire saga? Fucking LAY OFF, people. You are looking for anything to jump on, and the reaction would have been the same for ANY dialogue regarding the Padme/Anakin romance. Stop playing to every pathetic fanby stereotype. You certainly can't judge a line without hearing what comes before and after it anyway.

Como Estas Beeetchees... You can pick apart bad dialogue and crappy delivery by HC all you like.. I still like most of what we've seen in the teasers thus far.. especially Ian McDiarmid's delivery of the "Are you threatening me.. Master Jedi?" and even Ewan's "You were the chosen one!" which I will admit is crappy dialogue but its handled pretty well.. I believed him.. BTW What's wrong with Paul Thomas Anderson, screenplaywriter?? or do you mean Paul WS Anderson.. I get those two confused sometimes too.. if you had have said Uwe Boll I might have agreed haha.. however, have a look at Shattered Glass again.. Hayden was good in that. My two cents... *BAMF*

Is just fucked up! Wait till you have seen the film then slag it off if you feel the need to. Otherwise you are just contributing to the common misconception that all fan-boys are intellectually stunted ass-holes who have as yet been unable to come to terms with the fact that Lucas auditioned many professional actors to be in his film rather than come straight to their house and ask them to be Anakin/Darth Vader on the grounds that they once brought a couple of figures of Boba Fett!!!! Grow up people and move on!

I KNOW that the dialogue has always been hokey...but in the first trilogy it was always done with a certain breeziness and sense of fun. In this trilogy, it's so rigid and unspontaneous feeling. Just an observation.

His delivery is fine! What the fuck...do you people fancy yourselves acting coaches or something? From what we can see from the short clips, he is doing a great job!

And it's, well, pretty much in line with the other two. Of course, I doubt I'm the only one on this board to read it by now. It's available to anyone on ereader.com, but having read it, I must say that my favorite parts were the conversations between Anakin and Palpatine, then Anakin's "purge" of the Jedi and the Seperatists at the end. Anakin's turn to the dark side is pretty much the way rumors have made it out to be, except that Padme's death makes no sense. At the end, she is physically repaird -- and dies anyway. There isn't even a Force-related explanation given -- she just dies. I get the sense that Lucas is just trying to sever ALL connections between this and the original trilogy, save the necessary ones like Vader, Kenobi, Chewbacca and the twins. I get the feeling, from this one's tone and the way it plays out, that rather than follow-through on everything he put in place with Episodes 1 and 2, he's just trying to give audiences wat they want in terms of seeing Anakin's turn in order to get this prequel trilogy over with as soon as possible, kind of cleaning up and not looking back. On a happier note, Jar-Jar is in ONLY ONE SCENE, and it's pretty much just like the one at the beginning of AOTC when he greeted Kenobi and Anakin, only this time it's just Anakin. Part of me is REALLY GLAD he isn't in the whole movie. Another part kind of wishes Lucas had come up with some conclusive end or destiniy for this character after going to so much trouble in Episode 1 to set him up. It's really kind of annoying in that way, but Jar-Jar has always kind of been the sour grape in this prequel trilogy.

Oh, and Sin City was cool...

Isn't it funny how none of us are actors yet we all know there is something wrong with his acting. For me the tone is all wrong in the delivery of his lines, it's very awkward, it's almost as if he is just reading the dialogue from the page. I don't think it is because of the writing at all. A good actor can make anything work. Look at what Harrison Ford did with his lines. I think H.C.s facial expressions are dead on and I wouldn't change that. We all desperately want a GOOD Star Wars film, you know so we can finally take Empire Strikes Back out of the DVD player! ;->

... I'm souped. That new music on the #2 spot was awesome. I can't wait. It's on. Saw Oldboy last week. It was classic! Saw Sin City last night. It was classic! The year has kicked into high gear. May 19. Star Wars. Episode III. Revenge of the Sith. I'm souped. It's on. It will be classic! Was at Toys R Us last night getting my toys. I'm never growing up. I don't care. Did I saw that it's on? It's on! And poppin'! I'm souped. Gotta calm down. Go UNC. My Knicks sucks. It's all good. May 19th. Star Wars will return in its true glory. The REAL trilogy will be Episodes III, IV, and V. It's on! Ziegfield May 19th. It's on! I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!

I honestly think that most people were expecting the young Darth Vader to be Clint Eastwood. Instead, they got a bratty, high tempered little punk. Personally, I love the choices made with the character. In EP II, anakin isn't some cool, confident badass. He's an impulsive, bratty, overconfident kid. IMO it humanizes his character more. It also matches with Luke as portrayed by Mark Hamil. Lucas has made Vader much more real than I think most are giving him credit for. Maybe that's also why people are unhappy with it. By showing Vader as a "normal kid" it kind of demystifies him. It gives added weight to the mechanical monster he becomes. Hayden C did a fine job as Anakin.

While I don't agree that the acting from Christensen and Portman has been bad overall -- I think some of their AOTC scenes had good acting but that people refuse to see it because of the bad and distracting dialogue -- I do agree that they could have been better, and that it is all, or mostly, on Lucas. Its funny to hear people bash Lucas as a hack writer and director, then speak of how much better these movies would have been other actors had been cast in place of Christensen and Portman. No matter who the actors were, they still would have had to deal with a poorly developed romance, bizarre and unnatural dialogue, and the famous non-direction direction of Lucas. I choose to give Lucas the benefit of the doubt, and believe that what he gets while filming is what he wants, instead of it being a result of a rush to get to post-production. But why for the love of good cinema did he not let someone else at least write the love story? I don't understand a self-admitted not very good writer going ahead and doing almost all of the writing himself? But anyway, these tv spots are good for the most part. Trying to ascertain the quality of the two romance leads acting based on a second or two is impossible, but I'd say that Christensen's delivery seems fine, while Portman does a good job with a likely-to-be awkward line in the Tragedy spot.

But even if someone else had been cast as vader/anakin, they still would have experienced the same writing and direction by Lucas. I don't see how people could imagine much difference in the final product by changing a cast member here or there, while maintaining the guy who makes virtually all creative decisions, right or wrong, good or bad. I mean, don't you think Christensen (and everyone else) would have been better with better scripts and with a director who works better with actual flesh and blood actors?

natalie is beautiful and so is her acting.

Natalie Portman can make me cry on the spot when she starts shedding tears. Hayden is gonna own this too. Lucas is right... Hayden has a certain anger or edge about him. It's gonna shine thru in this, especially if Lucas let them get a little more loose interpreting their lines, as has been rumored. Your approaching jaded cynicism if you can't get behind this swan song. Too bad.

Spot on. The greatest evil fucks of our time always start out like the kid next door.

Doesn't Leia say she remembers her mother's smile and kindness? How could an infant remember a smile from a woman who died the day she was born? Maybe it's just a midichlorian (sic) hallucination.

It just makes you wonder how unbelievably cool the Star Wars world would be with Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell handling it. "Good...bad...I'm the guy with the blaster." "Alright you primitive screwheads, listen up. This...is my DEATH STAR!"

..which is entirely subjective and therefore can't be argued with. Whatever, to each your own. I thought it kicks ass, all of it.

Gee, that's never been adressed before :p She has images and feelings, not memories. On good shot of eye contact between Padme and Leia should sufficiantly explain this to every clever fanboy who though they were the first to think of this.

Hayden is fine so far, but how is it that whan he becomes Vader he grows a foot taller and 100 lbs heavier. Does Anakin hit the juice like Jose Canseco?

You guys are really digging.

Yoda wakes up and realizes that it was all just a dream, all six movies, isn't that cool

Leia "felt" her mother through her strength in the force. This further identifies her as a "Skywalker". ....Besides, you know how women are, they're ALL witches.

Like, for Christs' sake, people. What kind of fucking pathetic self-loathing lives do you live? I remember when the story about Family Guy returning was up and nothing but 'family guy is not funny" "i hate family guy" "i'm upset because no living girl would ever touch me"..nothing but bitching! It makes me laugh my ass off! Are you so angry with the world because of your life-ling virginity, or because your mom wakes you up at 1pm from your basement-living sleepy-time, by putting a load of laundry in? Are these guys ever fucking happy with Anything, or are we just doomed to more "Life is unfair because nobody likes me, so i will continute to complain on the internet because it's the only way I can feel like i have some sort of 'man-behind-the-curtain' power in this world, because nobody really gives a shit about my sour opinions,and only I could make a proper Fantastic Four movie as i dont like the hue of blue thier suits are, and why is it i cry myself to sleep everynight dreaming of a land where people dont throw garbage at me or want to beat the shit out of me" talkbacks. There ya go, ya bunch of tadpoles, there's some more chum you can feed on and talkback about so you can feel like you have a place in the world, ya whiny bitches! P.S. - this movie will kick ass, Fantastic Four will be at least fun, Batman Begins will kick ass! Have a good'n !!

Darth can't go hunt down the guy who threw him into a volcano, even though the Dark Side is all about revenge (per the title). And they have to forget about Yoda for two decades. And they have to claim Leia somehow knows about her mom, even though she's talking about her in ROTJ. And then the droids have to have their memories wiped. And Chewbacca can't tell Han Solo, "hey this Jedi guy is for real - - I fought by his side two decades ago," and ... oh crap it's just going to be Lucas's Alzheimer saga.

in return of the jedi she mentions that her mother died when she was really young and only has a few memories. i dont know how old the babies are in episode 3 when she dies, but it has been established that she knew her mom at least briefly so..

You seem to forget that the trailers for the previous two Lucas crapfests had many believing they would be good films. And we all know how that turned out. These trailers mean squat.

Yeah, we do Jon_Snow, two quality Star Wars films. What is your point?

I won't go into how pathetic it is to criticize Lucas and yet have Darth in your username. But I will address your "plot holes". Yoda is assumed dead. So they haven't quite "forgotten" about him. Whether this is addressed in the film or not remains to be seen, but it hardly matters. He doesn't pose a threat as far as they're concerned. While I'm sure Vader would love to have a rematch ASAP with Obi-Wan (he certainly seizes the opportunity when he finds out they're on the Death Star together), he certainly can't tell the Emperor they need to devote all their resources to finding him. The galaxy's a pretty big place, and Obi-Wan's seculsion makes it that much harder. It's not like he's hanging around gambling joints on Coruscant drawing attention to himself. As for Leia, for all we know, she was talking about her mother on Alderaan. Or maybe she knows she was separated at birth from her real mother, and has force visions that she's confused with hazy memories that aren't real. Who gives a shit? She's asking a question posed by Luke. Any human being's recollection is subjective; it's not some absolute fact that Lucas is presenting and then contradicting, only one woman's fallible memory. Lastly, Chewbacca never meets Obi-Wan until Episode IV. Yoda is the one who has scenes on Kashyyyk. And he probably doesn't mention meeting Yoda back in the day because it would have been a little rude to start arguing with his friend and captain in front of strangers who are paying money to be transported. Maybe you should examine your own mental state before attacking Lucas next time.

You know, you're probably right. I haven't seen anything else in the Hayden Film Library, so while I find it a little hard to believe he's a *good* actor, he is probably capable enough. In any case, I was probably a little too hard on him (god, that's an arrogant assertion, isn't it?). In any case, let me rephrase: I cannot imagine a way for H.C., at least while under the "direction" of Lucas, to convincingly become a symbol of pure evil. The costume, once worn, will undoubtedly help (I wonder if not seeing his emoting will make the transformation work. Could be.), but I just don't see it. But in conclusion, I essentially recant. While I've seen nothing to make me believe that H.C. is a good actor when NOT directed by Lucas, I've seen enough good actors become terrible in Eps. I and II that I shouldn't judge his talents outside the Star Wars universe. However, I still see no reason to think this film will miracuously regain the warmth the prequels have so completely lacked. None of the characters resonate with the audience (certainly not with me), and most of them are barely endearing enough to root for. All the attempts to humanize the cast--especially the friendship between Anakin and Obi-wan--have fallen flat so far (and the embarrassing attempts at humor have been no better than an Oscar monologue). Could this all be fixed in Ep. III? Possibly. But Lucas needs to watch a few episodes of Firefly. We don't need any more shots dust-free offices and perfectly color-balanced space battles. We need humanity! Now, I'm obviously not saying Obi-wan should be a drunk, or that Palpatine should live in a corrugated-metal hut. But it seems tome the cinematography and just the "feel" of the prequels are way too alien, too clean (for a lack of a better word). I dunno. Anybody understand what I'm saying?-----------Here's hoping for a miracle. He's given us a few before. Maybe he's been saving his last one for the right moment.

The problem is that his character is just not written well. Nor is George Lucas the kind of director that can pull a great performance out of an actor despite limitations of the script. Not to mention that he is horribly miscast. What we know of Darth Vader from the Original Trilogy doesn't coincide with the character from the Prequel Trilogy. Take one look at Hayden as Darth Vader for an example. Sorry "I Dunno", but Hayden is 6'1" and very thin and David Prowse is 6'7", was a world class body builder and was incredibly physically imposing. Making the leap from the PT Vader to the OT Vader just isn't going to work. I think Lucas got to caught up in making Anakin look like he could be Luke's father, instead of making him look like what we have already seen of Darth Vader. I always envisioned Anakin as an Orson Welles type. A big, charismatic person that could become very hateful and corrupt on his way to becoming very evil.

Most of you losers couldn't even spell "acting". You are all just jealous because he got the part. I've got news for you dumb fucks: YOU WERE NEVER IN THE RUNNING! Lucas wouldn't have cast you since he never visualized Anakin Skywalker as a big fat fag.

I think it may have been mentioned over on theforce.net or something, but anyway, some guy cut a video of all the clips. I downloaded it, but I don't know how long this stuff is going to be up. I could send it over IM or whatever if someone wants. ask

You just keep on convincing yourself that the Prequels are good films. Deep down, though, you know they suck.

Most of your points about 'loose ends' are good ones, they generally make sense, but when it comes to leia's memories of her mother, the best explanation is that Lucas simply had given very little thought to the padme character when he did Return of the Jedi. For it to be that she was remembering her adoptive mother would sort of cheapen the scene since Luke was clearly seeking information about their real mother. At the time of Jedi, Lucas most likely had absolutely no idea how the padme character would play out if he ever got around to doing the prequels. That's not Lucas-bashing. It'd be unreasonable to expect perfect harmony between two sets of films separated by nearly 20 years. Its not that big a deal so long as Lucas gets the big things right. I mean if there were a choice between Lucas tying up every little loose end verus him getting real help in writing and filming dramatic scenes between two flesh and blood actors, then I'll bet most would choose the latter. I think the brief shots of christensen and portman in these clips are fine. I disagree with those who say they portend bad acting for the movie, but at the same time one can't get too optimistic (or pessimistic) about a few seconds taken out of context.

the more I become convinced that none of you have ever actually paid attention to the original trilogy. There's a good reason that Mark Hammill and Carrie Fisher were not nominated for Oscars in 1978. Even Harrison Ford didn't exactly burn up the screen in the first film. And there are plenty of examples of cringeworthy dialogue throughout the trilogy. Anyone trying to make a case that Lucas' writing has gone downhill is looking at the original trilogy through the eyes of childhood. Now if you could learn to do that with these films, you'd see the continuity. But hey, if these films aren't to your liking, just go watch "The Matrix Unplugged" some more. I'm sure you'll find "Whoa" to be the best line written in the history of cinema.

you bastards crying about the new prequals and the acting....I have one quote for you: "But i was going to go to the tochi station to get some POWER converters."

In any of the Star wars movies. really, the only guy who made the dialogue believable was Alec Guiness. People harp on Christenson, but you must be forgetting Harrison Ford's hamhanded, camera mugging job in Empire Strikes back . " Who's scruffy lookin'? " I was in love with Star Wars when I was a kid, and I even cringed at that line, and the delivery. Of course, he did redeem himself somewhat in the " I know" scene. People here just bitch too damn much. it's only a movie, it's not the cure for cancer for God's sake. If it sucks ass,I think I'll live. And I'll still have the original trilogy to enjoy. And besides, I've already seen the best movie of the summer, Sin City ( yeah talking outta my ass, but I can't see anything else being this good ). Last note: I do wish Lucas had tried to talk Lawrence Kasdan into writing the screenplay like he did the original trilogy. The fact that the guy hasn't made any movies himself since 1977 really shows, BUT AoTC was an improvement over Phantom Menace. And I'm hoping the final movie is a further improvement. If not, oh well there goes two hours of my life and 9 bucks. I'm sure you'll all still be screaming about how Lucas raped your childhood .

Show a little emotion!

You're forgetting the fact that Luke commented on her memories by saying that he himself lacked all memories of his mother. As far as I know, the twins were taken from Padm

...I have a feeling this film is going to be just as shockingly bad as the first two prequels. I really love the OT (even Jedi), but come on! TPM was just about palatable if you could block Jar-Jar out of your mind, but AOC really was a bag of pensioner's sloppy turds - and you didn't even have the easy culprit of Binks to lay the blame on - it really made the audience face up to the fact that the real problem, above all else, was the unutterably bad dialogue - and I think Episode 3 will sweep the fucking trifecta of lameness. But hey, here's hoping, eh? I'm still looking forwards to some James Earl Jones Vader dialogue, even if it isn't written by Kasdan.

Yeah it is! Those were fookin' cool!

Anybody can see this from the clip on the Lava. The most unrealistic thing ever produced by ILM. Add HC as Darth Vader and we have a box office disaster. Rest In Peace Star Wars, 2 good films is all you produced.

And all this time Harry claimed he didn't really like the Binksmeister. We can smell our own y'know! And fuck, the SW hating LOTR fans are LOVING posting in a SW talkback. Again. Tell you what, when we're old boring sacks o' shit we'll probably enjoy the Cornish elves too. Cue responses of an uninspired nature

You people seem to think that Lucas doesn't know his own movies. Tremndous arrogance, espcially from people who now claim to hate them. If you listen to his interviews and especially the commentaries, you'll know that he knows every frame of every shot of all his films and you haven't thought of anything he hadn't thought of. As I said, one lingering shot of Padme and Leia staring at each other, perhaps while Luke is being born, killing her would explain your little supposed plot hole. As for the droids, we knew when the prequels were announced that the droids would be in all the films, therefore would intereact with the characters, therefore would have to get a memory wipe or sworn to secrecy. None of this is new. As for the obligatory "ILM sux! WETA rules" battlecry of the mildly retarded, I don't know what shots of the lava you were looking at but your opinion is yours.

Sorry, but the line and the delivery just Phantom-sucked a phart right out of my asshole. But hey, the FX look cool, and Yoda looks alot better, so I'll still be there opening day.

The fighting on the raft. Everything I have seen up until now looked good. Another shot to mention is the photoshop look of Sideous with lightsabre. Trailer was great, Tv Spots weak. Does it suck ass? Guess we will have to wait and see.

Come on, couldn't George have come up with something better than "breaking my heart" the more I think about it the angrier I become, and the anger is leading to hate, and the hate is swelling. I only hope I will not suffer on 5-19....besides, you can't break or kill shit in Star Wars, it's always DESTROY!

Sorry, I just fucking had to...I'm going now, goodbye

I mean they were'nt that spectacular? Huh, what,...Oh, it's memories we're all taling about and I'm drunk... ok carry on, nothing to see here.

Jeeshe, people.

Anyone watch movies that take place in the middle ages? Anyone watch movies that take place within the framework of a royal society? Get a grip. Lucas planned the dialogue in all three movies to churn out this way. He's being consistant. The art direction of the OT was dark, grungy and despressing. The dialogue represents that. Now look at the art direction of the new movies. Alex Guiness even said it himself when he mentions that before the Clone Wars was a more "civilized age". So sad that you have to asssume these characters have to act and say exactly what people would say in 2005 on "EARTH!!!" Such sad a pathetic little people you are. Too bad you can't get your heads out of your asses to see or hear it. But you'll all be standing in line in May anyways. Talk is cheap here.... and it's "cool" to bash the new Star Wars movies these days.

Emperor--"Alrighty then jedi...if you will not break, then I'll just have fuck'n kill you bitch!" Dude, "You are destroying me Anakin" ok, maybe that's not so hot either, but ANYTHING would have been better than some shit we've heard in a million or more love songs. I'm almost expecting Padme in her dying breath to utter..."Don't worry Ani, my heart will go on." Jesus-fuck'n-christ. Hey, at least those dark-side M&M's kick ass. Remember, the midichlorians might be with you...this party's over.

Okay, Anikin got married, but we all know whats going on. Anakin wants to be the Emporers prag. Remember the hard nipple scene when Ani was having a wet dream about his mother? Sorry folks...he was dreaming of being of his coming bondage and getting all creamy and dreamy for Palpatine. Do you think you'ld want that fag hag Padme along for the ride? Nosiree sez me! Jesus...look between the lines people.

dreaming of being of his coming bondage people...no typo there!

As far as the dialogue being more regal and elegant or some other bullshit, I say..."Good call my young padwan"...not! Why the fuck do people relate love to the "heart" anyway? when it makes your head hurt. Or it make my hand hurt when I gotta get out the car and choke a bitch! And yes, Anakin is indeed a homo in search of a life of leather. Obviously he was driven to it by that crazed gay jedi-cult that snatched him up as a boy and forbid him from interacting with women. saying yes master to some creepy old dude, and wearing a cape no less. It almost sounds like some nutty orgy scene from JFK. Remember, around the survivors a parameter create!

Maybe a youngish but taller (and living) Marlon Brando would have knocked the Anakin character out of hyperspace ... but however you feel, you've got to admit that a movie this huge is worth giving a chance.

you got me. The prequels suck. If I really thought that, I wouldn't be the kind of fucking loser that wastes his time talking about movies I don't think are any good. But I digress...

compare the shot compositions, they're really similar, and yet the emperor looks terribly goofy.

There's some ROTS clips from the new Star Wars Trivial Pursuit game, and there's a lot of new unseen footage on the DVD. I just wanted to let everyone know that there's a scene in the Senate where Palpatine reveals his true nature, and Portman's reaction is spot-on. Her line reading channels Carrie Fisher's defiance perfectly. I don't know if she's going to be that good throughout the whole film, but I'm feeling much more confident about her work. Also have to credit Lucas because she has a great line to deliver.

I don't know what Harry is thinking. When Hayden says his line "Don't you turn on me bla, bla,..." and then she goes "Youre breaking my heart", that sounds bad, but then they show a shot of her crying boohoohooo and it sounds soooo fake its funny LOL. The more times I see it, the more I laugh. This is the first clip of this movie Ive seen that makes me think its gonna be bad too.

If you don't like the rest, aw well tough. no ones forcing you to go see it

Any particular reason you've mistaken me for someone who was either complaining about the prequels or hating on Uncle George? See, when I go back and read my post it seems as though I'm actually defending the continuity between the prequels and the OT. Could you clear up the confusion for me? It's not that I mind being "bitch-slapped", I'd just like to know why.

...and you're right, ANALNATHRAX. What's all this "heart" talk when talking about love in movies? That is so trite. And let me tell you something about the letter "E". How come well over 1/5 the vowels used in the dialogue contain the letter "E"? Can't Lucas come up with some original shit and sometimes use "Y"? What a hack.

No sweat. I thought that might have been the case. Just had to make sure.

The new Star Wars toys kick ass!! So the new movie HAS to be good.

...people might not actually say "you're breaking my heart" in real life (although you could probably rationalize a circumstance), but I have to say, that line and the way it was delivered almost made me cry. And I'm not even a hardcore SW fan. Flame away, I don't give a fuck.

And other cool background things like that were revealing the in the clone war cartoons! Crazy.

nuff said.

As much as I am dissing the prequels, I have to say that the scene where Anakin marches into the temple with the clones makes me want to be HIS padewan learner. I am even questioning my sexual orientation. Throw that pastry haired bitch to the curb Hayden!

Thanks, dude, for the most retarded post of the whole thread. I needed a good laugh today...

I don't claim to hate any of the Star Wars movies, mainly because I don't actually hate any of the Star Wars movies. I've enjoyed all of them to varying degrees. If you'll notice I spoke well of both Portman and Christensen's deliveries in these tv spots and AOTC. I'm not going to predict doom and gloom because of the 'You're breaking my heart' line. Yes, I do think, based on the romance scenes of AOTC, that the line may turn out to be awkward and bizarrely placed, but I think Portman delivers it just fine. If you're not going to bother reading a post I make, then don't include me in some anti-SW list. What I've actually said here is that I think its unreasonable to expect every little loose end to be neatly tied up, to expect perfect harmony between two trilogies separated by 16 years. Its clear that Lucas has been flexible with parts of the plot throughout the entire series, and I think he's even said that he didn't have more than a broad outline for the backstory while making the originals. Therefore, when he decided to address, for the first time, Luke and Leia's mother in Return of the Jedi he most likely had no clear idea of how her character would play out in the backstory IF he ever got around to making it. Do you really doubt this? Do you think he would have strongly suggested that luke and leia's mother lived long enough into leia's childhood for leia to develop a vague memory of her if he knew that wouldn't be the case, as we generally understand it anyway? The most logical answer is that only when he sat down to write the prequels did he finally come up with the details of padme's demise. I don't see the big deal really. Its not a knock on Lucas. I care much more about a well-written, well-directed, emotional death scene than making sure it fits neatly into the preconceived notions formed by the blink-and-you'll-miss-it reference to padme in Jedi. My other point is that Lucas has described himself as a not-so-good writer. He says its difficult for him. So yes, I think the movies would have been well-served had he sought out help for an admitted weak spot, at least with regards to the love story. (Yes, I don't think he did a good job in writing or directing the romance for AOTC. Does that make one a hater?) I think it would have made the job easier for christensen and portman, and elevated their performance above what I already consider to be, at a minimum, fine. My comments about the direction are not meant to bash Lucas so much as they are to point how a fairly common analysis of it. Just listen to Harrison Ford express his frustration for Lucas' approach to handling actors. Combine the two -- his writing with his brand of direction -- and you end up with a love story that was less than it could have been. But I choose to believe that Lucas doesn't just sleepwalk through directing such scenes. I believe that he gets what he wants, and that's why I think its unfair for those who think the acting sucks to principally blame the actors. I expect ROTS to be good. If he took the same approach in handling the anakin-padme scenes in ROTS as he did in AOTC, then I think it will hurt the film to an extent, but not enough to sink it. My gut tells me it will place second to Empire as the series best. The only thing I've heard about ROTS that I don't particularly care for is the elevation of the samuel l jackson character.

I definitely never said anything about ILM versus WETA. I have no idea who is better, though if I had to guess I'd say ILM.

I don't think that many of the tens of millions who see these movies take much notice of or give much thought to the dialogue, with the exception being the love story in AOTC. When you dealing with action scenes, the dialogue isn't much of a focus. When you're dealing with political scenes then people probably expect it to be a bit dry. But when you're dealing with a small, intimate moment between two people in love, then the dialogue takes on a much greater importance because the audience's attention is focused on it. And no one is suggesting that Lucas should have gone for Aaron Sorkin like, so-smooth-its-phony dialogue, or the impossibly hip and clever banter often seen in crappy shows and movies aimed at teenagers, but did Lucas have to go for dialogue that he claimed to know beforehand might instill in audience members a desire to throw things at the screen? There is a lot of room in between. I mean, I don't think anyone ever expected the romance dialogue of AOTC to stand out for praise, but did it have to stand out for such criticism? Did it have to draw such attention to itself in a negative way? I think that some of this criticism bled over into judgement of the acting. Take the scene where anakin first kisses padme. The acting is good on both portman and christensen's part, but noone wants to see it because they are hung up on the line about sand being irritating. It just seems as though Lucas went out of his way to alienate people with some of the dialogue, and I dont' understand that. It doesn't mean the whole movie sucks, or even that the love story sucks, rather that they may have been better had Lucas relented a bit.

FUCKING GAY. McConaughey and that mouth of his looks like he is pimping a gay porn site. It's a wonder that crap like that even gets into preproduction.....

I can't believe the level of nitpicking over "breaking my heart". I've said "you're breaking my heart" in both comic, sarcastic and serious circumstances. It's not like she spun her head around and started gibbering in Latin. Sheesh.

Yoda is never assumed dead. Palpatine knows that Yoda escaped even the Clones can't find any trace of him after he and Yoda fight in Episode 3. (Yoda is rescued essentially by Bail Organa in his speeder). Yoda can't beat the Emperor, but Palpatine is no fool and knows that Yoda would not die that easily.

I think were overlooking the fact that Lucas cant write! We know this already. However, it'll have lightsabre fights in it and theyre fuckin cool and i'll be bouncing around in my chair like a sugar addled 10 year old everytime someone fires one up...then i'll bitch about the crap dialogue later in the pub and defend it 'cause its Star Wars....and it has lightsabres...oh and sont be tempted to buy the Making of book..as it lays out the whole thing and is spoilertastic.

...it works for me. I'm actually getting excited about this. If it sucks, I will be even more pissed than I was when I walked out of EPII.

Is this the bastion of dialogue that you are holding the prequel trilogy to? Maybe you prefer,

Why the fvck folk are bashing HC I don't know. These trailers are superb and he looks the part as does everyone else. Padme shows more emoti9on in that one line than the first 2 films. Can't wait for May the 19th.

Your pathetic tripe has been spewed forth by the wacko left for years now and has never caught on. Why? Because it is all lies and bullshit. You sad little losers can't accept the fact that Bush really won (twice now), that Bush got us out of Clinton's recession, that Kofi Annan was in Saddam's back pocket, that Iraqi's held peaceful elections, that Libya gave up it's nuke program, that Syria is balking on Lebanon, that Egypt is actually talking about free elections, that the US spends BILLIONS upon BILLIONS every year helping out the world. "American taliban", huh? Fuck you, troll. We are right, you are wrong.

Fuck the haterz.

All the flamers on here are unbelievable.

An' I still ain't showing this at the Bremo Bluff Theater and Feed Store cuz a lot of you SW fans are all cracked up and sappy-like. I kinda like these movies, even the prequels, but look what they do to some of you. It does look like ILM took some lessons from WETA though, finally.

"Uhhh...since when does ANYONE go to a Star Wars movie for the acting?" Certainly not since the prequels started. The acting in them is almost uniformly flat, stilted, dull, blah, blah, bland. But that's ultimately Lucas's fault, not that of the actors. He did OK with the first/fourth chapter, and Kershner did fine with "Empire". Yes, the acting is those two films wasn't Shakespearean, but it was fine space-opera, B-movie quality. They looked like they were living, breathing people. Not the pixel-drawn cyborgs that Lucas favors now.

One of the first scenes in ANH, when the stormtroopers open the door and they come out of the smoke. How would Lucas do that scene today? It would feel all CGI. Notice he barely does CGI in very intimate moments in confined spaces. Those quiet moments are missing from SW, that tell the story. Now it's all mainly to show off effects. Every scene just about is an effect. On that note though. I'd like to say I still like all the SW movies, after all it doesn't effect your life if you like them. I just wanted to be honest

This Hayden kid just is not talented. His lines in the full trailer are given with the complete and total lack of ability as his lines in AOTC. Can the movie still rock? Sure; both Matrix and Much Ado About Nothing survived Keanu. The special effects, as always, look otherwordly, and the story is hard to fuck up at this point. Despite Hayden, the abortions that were episodes 1 and 2, and the nagging thought that any movie with a saber wielding robot named General Grevious must be bad, I actually have a hope that this movie may be...good.

Notice the difference between fart, as opposed to cocksucker. Fatsucker is more repulsive because it's rarely used and therefore creates a stronger image. There are so many words, phrases, sayings, metaphors etc. that are so hardwired into our system that we use them all the time, despite the fact that some lack any real power or reasonance. I just used one..."hard-wired" folks will still be using that shit long after wires are gone. Good writers try to avoid using stale language as much as possible, but the hack uses it almost unconsciously. The worst kind are the ones having some sports imagery. "good call my young padwan"...gee obi-wan, I didn't know you were a fucking football fan. I seriously wouldn't be surprised if during the duel in ROTS obi-wan spouts "ok Ani, THE GLOVES ARE OFF!" So yes, when I hear someone speak of a "broken heart" I do question what the fuck that means, and I do wonder if a writer could come up with something more potent. Then maybe it might "strike a better chord" with the actress, and in turn, connect better with the audience. Get it fucko? And then maybe George could really "hit this one outta the park" And no, I don't have a problem with "E's" as opposed to "y's"....you anus

That is fucking funny. In a movie about guys fighting with lazer swords, throwing shit with their minds, traveling thru hyperspace, walking carpets and talking frogs... you complain about the lack of "realism". Thank you for the laughter!

Ships making sounds in space. Yeah, the realism in SW was always there wasn't it? Get over it. SW is great for what it is. Fantasy. You want "reality"? Go outside.

These are both Oscar-nominated actors you fucking stools. EVERBODY sux in the PT! Sam Jackson sux, Ewan kinda sux, Liam Neeson kinda sucked, hell even chris lee kinda sucked. It's because of the writing. but more important, it's the sloppy editing. If you watch that OT doc on dvd, you see what a disaster new hope could have been. Entire scenes would just fall flat. the performances seemed lackluster. But then that Asian dude and the other guy came in and cut AROUND shit. As they put it, "we let the cut dictate the pace, rather than the actor"...or something like that. One of the biggest problems with the PT is that george let his fucking sound man edit the shit, rather than a pro. Here's the truth, ALL actors can be made to appear sucky if the editing is off. Hence good actors like Jackson come off looking like TPM shit. Just look at that SW doc again, the scene w/ luke and obi-wan...how it eats shit like a TPM scene, how much more pathetic Hamil's performance looks before the new editors come in and tighten everything up. I'd bet bank that if the original SW editors were given the chance they could turn TPM into a great flick, I bet they could even make Jake look presentable. Just cut most of his stupid lines and he's fine. Like when he runs back to his mom, just show a couple good, sad expressions, then cut to her saying "don't look back", one or two more close ups...enter to the sweeping score...CUT! THAT'S IT! It's all in the fucking EYES fucker! Lucas talks about being a visual director but then has the fucking kid babble some bullshit about "i think o, iguess, i don't know" and lets his fucking SOUNDMAN leave the shit in. Then you fuckers rant about how the kid sucks...no, LUCAS fucked up. HC and portman DON'T SUCK. As evidenced by their work in other films. Lucas just doesn't know how to let go of his shitty dialogue and needless exposistion in the editing room...period. Peter Jackson does. Look at some of the ottakes from LOTR, it could have been a shitty film if the raw footage were in the wrong hands. Look at Viggo...in some cases his line readings are god-awful. Think about it, you know it to be true.

...Mark Hamill's acting ability. He and Peter Cushing gave the only real quality performances in A New Hope (Ford was appropriate in his role, but was largely mugging and recycling his American Grafitti character, Fisher was clearly high and Sir Alec phoned Kenobi in from a thousand light years away). If it weren't for the accident that robbed Hamill of much of his ability to emote facially, he would've been the next Robert Redford. He's still one of the finest voice actors working today. I understand Hayden did a fine job in Life as a House, and I remember being floored by Portman in The Professional and Beautiful Girls, so I tend to agree with the idea that their troubles in the second movie were Lucas' fault as a director and, to a lesser extent, as a writer of dialogue (a good or even clever actor can take the kind of crap Lucas writes and make it work, much as Ford and Hamill did in A New Hope). Portman has seemed bewildered and bored by the material in the prequels so far and had virtually no help from any of the rest of the cast in Phantom Menace. Ewan, who seems to be fully engaged with the material and infusing some much-needed energy into the franchise, was underutilized in Menace and is really the saving grace of Clones (keeping that from being a terrible movie in my estimation). Maybe Hayden and Portman will amp it up for Sith and help bring it up over the low bar the prequels have set so far. Maybe we'll get more of Ewan showing us he knows and respects the characters and their stories. Maybe George pulled his head out of his editing bay long enough to care how the still-human pieces of the movie were coming together. Gosh, I hope so. We'll see soon enough.

how the CGI and the sci-fi of the star wars universe will be utilized to wxplain how a skinny surfer kid is transformed into a meaty middle-aged black man. Now THAT'S the dark side. my belief is anxiously waiting to be suspended.

It's his sincere committed style that he chose that helps lift the horrid lines out of the swamp. But again, the slick editing also helped to keep him and the other actors from looking like complete jackasses. Many have ripped on Mark, but forget that this man basically put down the blueprint for Mozart in "Amadeus" on Broadway. And yet the dick-weeds declare him a "shitty actor" as they now do to poor HC...another victem of the all-mighty sarlucas

Don't judge single lines of dialouge interspersed throughout a 10 sec spot. The rhythm, pacing and the dialouge that precedes it will give a much better representation. Say it with me people..."Context is everything" ...very good.

What you people who constantly deride the dialogue ALWAYS FUCKING MISS THE POINT on is that the characters themselves are not Shakespeare. Calling Lucas a hack for not coming up with original, clever, colorful dialgoue for characters of this type (sheltered, emotionally inexperienced) is an absurd criticism. I'm not saying the guy's a great writer but deriding him for not having his pregnant, betrayed, emotionally distressed character come up with something more pithy than "you're breaking my heart" just makes the bashers lose credibility.

Please, report to your local looney bin and have them admit you because the commercials rock and if you can't get it up for SITH at this point, you're just a clueless angry fuck who gets off on being more of the spoiler and hater. Not to mention, for 30 second bits, the idea that people here are arguing about the "dramatic delivery" that Hayden or Natalie or anyone is giving is truly, truly laughable and yet another sign of how desperately some people are reaching. Not to mention, this bullshit notion that Lucas can't direct actors or write, blah, blah, blah. For fuck's sake, this is STAR WARS. The acting and dialoque has ALWAYS been straight out of an old Buster Crabbe saturday matinee Flash Gordon serial, and to say or think otherwise is ludicrous since THAT was the tone Lucas has ALWAYS established ALL of the movies to have. Seriously, George Lucas never raped your childhood's -- you angry fucks just prefer to ass rape yourselves by sitting on dildos out of anger and resentment because you're still living in your parent's basements and you still haven't kissed a girl. Shatner was infamously right. Get over yourselves, grow up and get a life already. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be out in force, literally, on May 19th to have a fucking blast.

It is easy for you Haters to type that shit, about Lucas being worthless, but would you say it to Lucas's face?

I agree that a good actor can overcome bad dialogue, but they generally need help from the director to do so. Aside from a quote by Christensen about Lucas being more engaged and hands-on for ROTS, the general impression of Lucas as a director has been as a rather distant one who offers little by way of insightful direction. Maybe that isn't true, but Christensen is the only one I've really heard dispute it. If this was his approach to the love story in AOTC, then that added to the distracting dialogue and rushed progression of the story (it goes from pt A to B to Z it seems) must have made it hard on Christensen and Portman. Having said that, I still think they did a mostly good job, though were certainly capable of better. While I wonder about Lucas' claims to knowingly write bad lines, I can't bring myself to believe that he accepts 'bad' acting. Maybe he has a lower bar than most directors, but I think he gets what he considers to be good, satisfactory acting. Even if he prefers post production to principal photography, I just find it hard to believe that he'd sabotage his own legacy by not doing an extra take or two to correct bad acting if he thought it was bad. As to dialogue in general; I say again that the audience has different expectations about differnt types of scenes. When its a romance scene, or some other small moment between human actors, then the dialogue takes on greater importance because the audience will focus on it more. It makes no sense to go out of your way to test people's patience in such scenes, as Lucas claims to have knowingly done for a scene in AOTC. But the "you're breaking my heart" line from the tv spot is fine in my opinion. She does a good job with it, and hopefully the line will flow more naturally than some of the more distracting ones in AOTC.

ANALNATHRAX, Natalie has an Oscar nom, but Hayden does not. And it's doubtfull he ever will. The guy should be deliverng pizza, not lines. Yes the diologue is bad, but if both Ian McDiarmid and Ewan McGregor can both make somthing of thier lines, then why can't everyone else - and that includes Ms. Portman, who I believe to be a fine actress, and Sam Jackson who's not to shabby either.

Or whatever the fuck it's called...is it my life as a house? whatever, anyway I'm almost positive he was. Can someone back me here? Idunno...I spose you're right, perhaps I make too much of breaking my heart. I checked the making-of book today, and I must admit, against all better judgment, this movie does look pretty fuck'n cool. You must understand, I only vent on Lucass out of love.

He WAS nominated by the Globes for breakthough performance in "House", and supporting by SAG, NBR, and the Online Film Critics Society. Plus I thought he was great in Shattered Glass...so there. P.S. I thought he ws kind of amusing AOTC

...(i.e. "an idiot") or is he just off his meds? Not that I often have the opportunity to stand face to jowls with Lucas but, if I did, you can bet your confused ass I'd have some things to say to/ask him. I don't hate the man, but I sure am disappointed in him as a filmmaker for his last two-and-a-half movies or so. I wouldn't expect him to listen to me, much less answer me/justify any of his "artistic" decisions. He isn't required to and, frankly, I don't think he cares enough to bother. But I sure as hell wouldn't be struck dumb or timid by his mere (or, more accurately, anything but mere) presence. "Say that to his face!" What are you, twelve?

Kudos to you both for elevating this talkback by showing insight and discussing the upcoming film (and the preivous two) with words other than "haterz," "flamers," and "fucking." I agree with both of you at a rate of about 90%. As for Portman and Christenson, I think they're both capable actors. I've seen much more of Portman's work, so I can only be sure of her skill, such as it is. I love The Professional, but as good as it is, her performance is notable more because she was good at such a young age, rather than her being simply good. So I have to agree that the apparent shortcomings in their performances of late are as much or more a fault of Lucas than any fault of theirs. As for the dialogue, I unfortnately have to agree that the lines in the prequels (with very few exceptions) are little worse than the stuff in the OT. But I would say that the way the lines have been delivered in the past two films have been MUCH more awkward, and tend to bring me out of the films. Ewan does seem to be getting better at that, and I seem to recall Liam Neeson not having the problem at all. Maybe I haven't seen TPM recently enough to remember, though. And it is possible that the reason the dialogue seems more natural in the OT is because I was but a wee person, and didn't know any better until it was already too familiar for objective analysis.

Fuckin' A triumph. 'Nuff said.