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Capone Interviews Woody Allen About CASSANDRA’S DREAM!
Hey everyone. Capone in Chicago here.
How do you even begin to talk about the works of Woody Allen? For decades, the man has made the world laugh as a stand-up comic, playwright, author, actor, and, of course, as a writer and director of some of my favorite films of all time. I'm not going to sit here and list Allen's filmography; That's easy enough to look up. And if you love movies, you probably have most of the titles committed to memory. It goes without saying that when you have the sheer volume of works that Allen does (he has, without fail, put out about a movie per year for his entire career as a filmmaker), there are bound to be some that don't quite hold up; there might also be a small number of downright clunkers. But the bulk of his work remains solid, especially in the last couple of years (and, yes, I'm leaving out SCOOP), with such works as MELINDA AND MELINDA, MATCH POINT, and his latest, CASSNDRA'S DREAM, another UK-based crime drama about two brothers (Colin Farrell and Ewan McGregor) who are desperate for cash. When their rich uncle (Tom Wilkinson) answers their prayers for money, they seem thrilled until they realize that all they have to do to earn it is commit murder. CASSANDRA'S DREAM is a classic morality play from Allen, and if all of his non-comedies are as strong as this and MATCH POINT, I wouldn't shed a single tear if he never made another funny movie again.
I've literally been circling around trying to get an interview with someone on this film since I saw it more than a month ago. First, I went after the actors--Farrell, McGregor, or Wilkinson--but none of them were doing press for this film, at least not internet press. For a while it looked like I'd be talking to a relatively new actress, Hayley Atwell, who plays McGregor's stunning actress girlfriend in the film, but that didn't work out either. Since Allen so infrequently does interviews, the idea of talking to him hardly crossed my mind. I think I may have mentioned his name in early conversations, but I figured he was the least likely interview subject and didn't bring it up again. So when his name was floated to me almost matter-of-factly, I nearly soiled myself. The whole time the day and time of the interview was being worked out, I kept assuming it wouldn't happen, that he would pull out. As few interviews as Allen gives in any given year, I don't think I've ever read one that he's given a geek-fueled and -focused site like AICN. But when his assistant called me Thursday afternoon ready to connect me with Woody, it finally hit me that this was happening.
For someone that doesn't do many interviews, Allen always comes off in print and on television as someone very comfortable answering questions. He's always seems very honest and open about anything, and willing to analyze and discuss his films and influences. We had very little time together--only 15 minutes--and I probably had about an hour's worth of questions for the man. How do you cover the career of a man like Woody Allen in 15 minutes? Quite simply, you don't even try. I tried to focus more on where he is now, working abroad, writing drama, things he seems exceedingly interested in today. He actually has another film coming out this year, and if I get a shot at speaking to him again, maybe I'll venture into his history a bit. I know nothing would be more thrilling for me. Anyway, enough with the preamble. Here's Woody…
Woody Allen: Hello?
Capone: Hi, Woody. How are you?
WA: Good, good.
Capone: First off, thank you so much for doing this.
WA: Oh, sure.
Capone: This wasn't originally going to be my first question, but as a part of a web-based outlet, do you do much internet surfing on a regular basis.
WA: To tell you the honest truth, I myself do not have computer (laughs). I have no idea how they work, and I've never done anything in my life on the internet.
Capone: Well, you're probably better off that way.
WA: I'm just not good at that kind of thing. It's not that I have a philosophy against it. I'm just not good at any kind of gadget or mechanical thing. I just don't take to them.
Capone: Well allow me to give you the opportunity to confirm or deny an internet rumor that just popped up about you this week. Is it true that you are doing a short film for a sort of PARIS, JE T'AIME-style anthology about New York?
WA: I know that appeared in the papers this week. It's a complete and total fabrication [laughs]. I have no idea who made up the story, or why, but it has nothing to do with me whatsoever, nothing I ever contemplated, nothing.
Capone: Okay, we'll get right on stopping that particular rumor mill.
WA: Thank you.
Capone: With your more recent works, people have been focusing a lot on your change of venue to Great Britain, but I've also noticed there's a higher body count and the guilt-ridden upheaval that seems to follow a crime. How long have you had these kinds of stories in you? And what's taken them so long to come out?
WA: Even me comedies, right from the start, people used to say they had a sad underbelly, they had a tragic feeling to them and they were never out-and-out broad comedies, that they had elements of unhappy love, unresolved love, unfulfilled love in the end. As far back as CRIMES AND MISDEMEANSORS, ideas occurred to me that were suspenseful and crime-ridden and tense, and I wanted to make them into a story. And they always seemed to carry with them some sort of moral issues as well. So I did it with CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS; I did it again with MATCH POINT and again with CASSANDRA'S DREAM.
Capone: Even as far back as CRIMES AND MISDEMENASORS, it's sometimes tough to tell whether you hold some sort of admiration for these people who get away, literally, with murder, or whether you condemn them. Or maybe you just stay out of decision.
WA: I hope it's not hard to tell. I shouldn't be hard to tell. I don't know why it would be. I'm just depicting life as it is. In real life, people are committing crimes all the time, on a sleazy street level, on a blue-collar level, on a drug level, on a government level, everything from genocide to torture. And people get away with it. If you have no moral conscience and you're willing to do horrible things, you're not going to get stopped or punished by some heaven or hell or afterlife. You're going to have to stop yourself. The only morality we have is self-imposed. So I've depicted that in each of these films, and there are people--as in CASSANDRA'S DREAM--can commit crimes and have no moral conscience about it, and there are people who can't.
Capone: I'd imagine that the success of MATCH POINT was freeing to you as a storyteller. Was that the case?
WA: I was gratified by it; I was glad it was so well received. I felt, you know, I've always had to fight the thing of people saying “Well, he's a comedy director.” And they always expect me to do comedies, so I wanted it to be clear. I thought it was clear from CRIMES AND MISDEMEANSORS, but I wanted it to be really clear that I occasionally would make films that were not funny, and they could be enjoyable too if they were suspenseful and interesting and gripping.
Capone: I think people might link MATCH POINT and CASSANDRA'S DREAM as two sides of the same moral coin. Without giving away the ending, one could almost make the argument that the new film is an apologist's take on the ending of MATCH POINT and the fate of the murderer. Do you see it that way?
WA: Quite the opposite. First of all, I don't think anyone could logically develop the notion that they are two sides of the same coin. They have nothing to do with one another. One had to do was strictly about the role of luck in life; the other had to do with making a moral choice and how far one would go in life to rationalize the moral choice. The truth of the matter is at the end of CASSANDRA'S DREAM, the most evil character in the story--the uncle—triumphs completely. He gets everything he wants with no problem at all. There would be no reason to apologize for MATCH POINT because the point made with it is a true one. Luck plays an enormous part in life, and some people get away with terrible things because of luck. And at the end of CASSANDRA'S DREAM, in the same way, the worst character in the movie pays no penalty for what he's instigated.
Capone: That is true. Are you through with comedies for the time being?
WA: No, no. Not at all. I'm starting to shoot a broad comedy in about six or eight weeks.
Capone: Your schedule is remarkable, because I know you already have a finished film in the can ready to come out later this year.
WA: Yes, a romance in Barcelona this summer with Penelope Cruz, Javier Bardem, and Scarlett Johansson.
Capone: That's right, and I spoke with Javier recently, and we talked about your film. And it's funny because he said that he wasn't sure whether it was a comedy or a drama, and that it all depended on how you editing it. I've heard that about a few of your older films, that you are able to change them tonally in the editing room. Is that true?
WA: To some degree, that is true. And Javier is correct there. You could put this film together to emphasize the comedy or the drama, but basically it's a romance and it remains a romance. It's hard to explain. It's a dramatic film, but there are laughs in it and a lot of romance in it. It's a much, much lighter film than CASSANDRA'S DREAM. On the other hand, the one that I'm starting in New York is a very broad one and could not be mistaken for a drama in any way.
Capone: What can you tell me about casting on that film?
WA: I haven't cast it yet; I'm just beginning to cast it now.
Capone: Since we're talking about comedy, what do you think of the current comedic landscape, with Borat and Judd Apatow essentially leading the pack in the last couple of years?
WA: To be honest, with regards to specific films, I do find Sacha Baron Cohen funny. I find him a talented, funny guy. I probably didn't see the other films you're referring to. I'm guessing you're talking about teenage films.
Capone: Not really. I'm talking about movies like THE 40-YEAR-OLD VIRGIN and KNOCKED UP.
WA: See, I didn't see them.
[At this point, Woody's assistant comes onto the call to tell us we have to finish soon.]
Capone: I've noticed in your last few films, you seem to focus on the lives of characters much younger than yourself.
WA: That's everybody! [laughs] I gradually got to be, through no fault of my own, 72. So all of the sudden, I'm writing about younger people because that's most of the population.
Capone: Fair enough. I was thinking that it was because younger people's emotions and lives are still in flux.
WA: I'm not going to do a lot of films about 72-year-old people because the basic heroes and heroines of movies, you do want to see young people meeting and falling in love and getting into trouble at a younger age. That's just a natural thing.
Capone: You are still releasing about a film a year at this point. How much longer do you think you can keep that pace up? It's a pace that puts directors a third your age to shame. Are you still enjoying the process?
WA: Oh yeah. It's not as hard as it sounds. It's not as strenuous as it sounds, as long as people back the film. The hardest part of any film is getting the money for it. Writing, coming up with stories, and making films are not the hard parts. Raising the money is the hard part. And as long as they put the money up and my health holds out, I guess I'll just keep making films.
Capone: That's the best news I'm going to hear all day. And thank you for putting some of the most beautiful actresses in your films. I can always count on you to do that.
WA: [laughs] My own personal treat. Wait until you see Penelope and Scarlett together.
Capone: I can't wait. I think Scarlett has really shown her greatest range through the films she's made with you.
WA: She's fabulous in this romance with Penelope. You'll love it, you'll see.
Capone: Thank you so much again for doing this.
WA: You're welcome. Thank you.
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Reader Talkback
I've never envied Capone by bluebottle | Jan 20th, 2008 08:46:43 PM | "I gradually got to be,
through no fault of my own,
72." by Holodigm | Jan 20th, 2008 08:49:33 PM | Wow Woody Doing an Aicn
Interview... by skoobyx | Jan 20th, 2008 08:51:52 PM | Penelope and Scarlett by Kung Fu Hustler | Jan 20th, 2008 08:57:40 PM | You know who IS directing a
part in... by DanielKurland | Jan 20th, 2008 09:07:54 PM | Johansson AGAIN? by Mysterious Yobo | Jan 20th, 2008 09:08:09 PM | Wow by Sylvia Fowler | Jan 20th, 2008 09:11:34 PM | Congrats Capone! by Colier Rannd | Jan 20th, 2008 09:12:56 PM | love Woody, absolutely hated
this movie by hauptman | Jan 20th, 2008 09:17:01 PM | Not enough people enjoy Love
and Death... by DanielKurland | Jan 20th, 2008 09:17:23 PM | Penelope and Scarlett in a
Film... by Aquatarkusman | Jan 20th, 2008 09:17:49 PM | I bet he thought you were a
right imbecile by Mysterious Yobo | Jan 20th, 2008 09:20:14 PM | I wish he would make another
movie with Diane Keaton.... by JackIsLost | Jan 20th, 2008 09:23:14 PM | Woody should be every mans
role model.. by conspiracy | Jan 20th, 2008 09:35:28 PM | conspiracy you are a bastard by Stevie Grant | Jan 20th, 2008 09:48:53 PM | Wow Capone that was awesome.
Congrats!! by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz | Jan 20th, 2008 09:55:50 PM | Wow Capone that was awesome.
Congrats!! by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz | Jan 20th, 2008 09:55:56 PM | "Congrats" by Stevie Grant | Jan 20th, 2008 10:00:14 PM | anyone else think... by virtual_ninja | Jan 20th, 2008 10:06:33 PM | Woody Allen DOES consider 40
Year Old Virgin to be a
teenage fil by tompiltoff | Jan 20th, 2008 10:30:14 PM | Woody pwns Capone by BrowncoatJedi | Jan 20th, 2008 10:33:46 PM | right now, i can't help but
hate you by Larry of Arabia | Jan 20th, 2008 10:35:51 PM | To be fair. Woody... by Alonzo Mosely | Jan 20th, 2008 10:43:53 PM | alonzo by Stevie Grant | Jan 20th, 2008 10:55:51 PM | Woody, "a living legend"... by conspiracy | Jan 20th, 2008 11:12:38 PM | His Actions are as lowly as
his morals... by conspiracy | Jan 20th, 2008 11:19:12 PM | Yeah, the hipocracy in
Hollywood is a comedy itself. by jae683 | Jan 20th, 2008 11:19:30 PM | Awsome. Woody is awesome by Proman1984 | Jan 20th, 2008 11:22:21 PM | Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz by eXcommunicated | Jan 20th, 2008 11:23:27 PM | Woody is a great man by King_In_Yellow | Jan 20th, 2008 11:23:37 PM | Capone...I'd have at least
asked for tips on... by conspiracy | Jan 20th, 2008 11:38:15 PM | Mr Saxon...Well, ya know what
Woody say's... by conspiracy | Jan 20th, 2008 11:41:29 PM | Woody let's talk about the
elephant in the room...... by Riley Martin | Jan 20th, 2008 11:42:34 PM | Yeah thats the Woody we are
talking about Conspiracy by IndustryKiller! | Jan 20th, 2008 11:45:23 PM | You know Oscar Wilde had a
thing for young men by IndustryKiller! | Jan 20th, 2008 11:46:49 PM | IndustryKiller!. by conspiracy | Jan 20th, 2008 11:52:24 PM | IndustryKiller! by Stevie Grant | Jan 20th, 2008 11:54:36 PM | Oh..about Oscar... by conspiracy | Jan 20th, 2008 11:57:15 PM | conspiracy... by Stevie Grant | Jan 21st, 2008 12:01:42 AM | Also...it isn't about the
AGE..it is the circumstance. by conspiracy | Jan 21st, 2008 12:02:15 AM | It seems that the whole point
is lost in this TB by SpencerTrilby | Jan 21st, 2008 12:18:23 AM | WOODYEE GOES TO THE CHUCK E.
CHEESE by uss cygnus | Jan 21st, 2008 12:26:10 AM | You assholes are tired. by amychaser5 | Jan 21st, 2008 12:28:39 AM | amychaser5 by Stevie Grant | Jan 21st, 2008 12:54:35 AM | the woodman's private life is
just that... by red1701 | Jan 21st, 2008 12:58:29 AM | Woody Allen ain't so bad by felt pelt | Jan 21st, 2008 01:15:23 AM | First - and frakk all the
naysayers by the podosphere | Jan 21st, 2008 01:24:51 AM | oops - not first by the podosphere | Jan 21st, 2008 01:25:21 AM | Saxon and Stevie Grant... by amychaser5 | Jan 21st, 2008 01:28:31 AM | Congrats, Capone. by TattooedBillionaire | Jan 21st, 2008 01:28:53 AM | Woody is casting for a New
York comedy! by BenBraddock | Jan 21st, 2008 01:30:41 AM | amychaser5 by Stevie Grant | Jan 21st, 2008 01:40:24 AM | You missed my point entirely,
but... by amychaser5 | Jan 21st, 2008 02:06:57 AM | some typos there, sorry by amychaser5 | Jan 21st, 2008 02:09:05 AM | And c'mon, Saxon... by amychaser5 | Jan 21st, 2008 02:14:42 AM | Agreed as well, Saxon by amychaser5 | Jan 21st, 2008 02:18:42 AM | EEEWWWWWWWWWWW! by dr.bulber | Jan 21st, 2008 02:50:25 AM | Polanski and Allen by Darth Fart | Jan 21st, 2008 03:13:33 AM | Woody Allen is a legend by kwisatzhaderach | Jan 21st, 2008 03:26:47 AM | I preferred Scoop over Match
Point... by EvilGeek1 | Jan 21st, 2008 04:17:27 AM | Mr. Saxon, couldn't agree with
you more by Grammaton Cleric Binks | Jan 21st, 2008 04:59:49 AM | Kudos for getting Woody Allen
to talk with you, not easy by ricarleite | Jan 21st, 2008 05:18:41 AM | learn to interview by Happy Boy | Jan 21st, 2008 05:57:40 AM | Woody films bomb don't they? by Dazzler69 | Jan 21st, 2008 06:45:46 AM | Capone should have
questioned... by landrvr1 | Jan 21st, 2008 07:39:01 AM | Penelope is my MOMMA! by hatespeech | Jan 21st, 2008 09:05:04 AM | Woody Allen needs to talk to
Chris Hansen by norrinrad | Jan 21st, 2008 09:28:42 AM | uh, how d'you mean European? by batjack | Jan 21st, 2008 09:32:07 AM | Thank you for agreeing to this
interview, mr pedophile by ArcadianDS | Jan 21st, 2008 10:51:53 AM | ArcadianDS by ricarleite | Jan 21st, 2008 11:11:13 AM | That's karma, Capone by CherryValance | Jan 21st, 2008 11:56:11 AM | "CRIMES AND MISDEMENASORS" by Toonol | Jan 21st, 2008 12:30:23 PM | Thanks Saxon, here goes: I
wish Allen and by Grammaton Cleric Binks | Jan 21st, 2008 02:18:35 PM | Hannah and Her Sisters was his
last great film... by anchorite | Jan 21st, 2008 03:22:52 PM | Congrats on landing Woody
Allen, Capone... by anchorite | Jan 21st, 2008 03:23:57 PM | Below The Belt! by anchorite | Jan 21st, 2008 03:24:29 PM | I liked the MONSTERTIT going
apeshit... by travis-dane | Jan 21st, 2008 04:01:26 PM | Cassandra's Wet Dream... by anchorite | Jan 21st, 2008 04:21:38 PM | Let's be fair by azmodien | Jan 21st, 2008 05:15:18 PM | If it walks like a duck, and
quacks like a duck by Grammaton Cleric Binks | Jan 21st, 2008 05:30:51 PM | OK, this movie sucked. by polyh3dron | Jan 21st, 2008 07:59:17 PM | by azmodien | Jan 27th, 2008 11:12:06 PM |
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