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Derek Flint Says The Zucker Produced SUPERHERO! Reminds Us "Spoof Movies Don't Have To Suck" Like MEET THE SPARTANS!!

Frist by Chriss	Jan 28th, 2008 09:44:18 AM
Sounds like a plant. Venus Flytrap?
Just bring back MST3K by I Dunno	Jan 28th, 2008 09:45:20 AM
and we wouldn't need any of this shit.
Remember Top Secret by CuervoJones	Jan 28th, 2008 09:50:29 AM
Those were the days...
"extended trailer masquerading as a film" by CuervoJones	Jan 28th, 2008 09:51:35 AM
Any Michael Bay movie.
by wigster	Jan 28th, 2008 09:52:27 AM
First?
METAPHYTE! by blindambition238	Jan 28th, 2008 09:55:19 AM
(aka a plant) Just kidding... maybe
Meteor Man remake by EvilWizardGlick	Jan 28th, 2008 10:05:56 AM
Sounds a hell of a lot like Meteor Man.
We should never forget by I Dunno	Jan 28th, 2008 10:07:53 AM
the travesty that is "Meet the Spartans". This cannot stand.
GOOD by Gun Man	Jan 28th, 2008 10:10:42 AM
To see Mazin is off the set and emailing out stories about his own film. ALL of these parody films have blown -- ESPECIALLY the SCARY MOVIE ones Mazin had a hand in writing. How could his directorial opus be ANY good at all? Let's not forget he re-wrote DURING the strike, with the bullshit excuse that he was "the director contractually at that time" while others went hungry. Great guy. Here's to a film (along with MEET THE SPARTANS) I will NOT waste money on.
Brent Spiner as a "whacked out scientist" by greenstyle92	Jan 28th, 2008 10:10:45 AM
Reprising his role from "Independence Day" then. But, maybe that isn't such a bad thing...
Re: MST3K by greenstyle92	Jan 28th, 2008 10:14:30 AM
It's kind of infuriating that both the MST3K "teams" (Joel's being Team A and Mike's being Team B, but anyone who watched the show knows there was a lot of bleed over,) are both independently trying to come back to the business of making fun of movies but neither is actually working towards a true MST3K revival. That's why I'm boycotting film crew, Cinematic Titanic and Rifftrax until this guys get it right and break the robot puppets back out!
parody is the easiest, laziest form of comedy by BrowncoatJedi	Jan 28th, 2008 10:15:50 AM
Seriously, it's comedy for morons by morons. Rarely done well.
Yeah, Mel Brooks is a lazy asshole by TerryMalloy	Jan 28th, 2008 10:22:02 AM
Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein sucked.
Is Brent Spiner (DATA) related to Jason Dohring (LOGAN ECHOLLS)? by Squashua	Jan 28th, 2008 10:30:32 AM
I've been watching Threshold on the Universal HD channel (I actually like it - probably the best of those three "identical" series that came out that season (Surface and Invasion being the other two). So I'm watching and as a big Veronica Mars (and lesser-so, Moonlight) fan, I can't help but watch Brent Spiner and it's like he's identical in both looks and mannerisms to Jason Dohring, albiet approximately 20-30 years older. Anyone else notice this? It's creepy. They look alike, they sound alike; they even act alike.
Browncoat Jedi by kbass	Jan 28th, 2008 10:31:12 AM
Bad parody is comedy for morons. And we've seen a lot of it lately. However, as Terry Malloy put it so well, good parody is smart, funny and clever...tweaking well-known genres and stereotypes in new and original ways. I'm hopeful "Superhero" rises above the more recent dreck and gives us something to enjoy.
No, Blazing Saddles did not suck by I Dunno	Jan 28th, 2008 10:34:31 AM
Blazing Saddles was awesome. Young Frankenstein sucked a little but was OK. Robin Hood: Men in Tights and Dracula: Dead and Loving It sucked. The more specific a parody movie gets, the more it sucks. When you get to the point where you're trying to parody some recent pop culture shit that everyone's going to forget about in a year, then you suck As for MST3K, I just wish the Sci-Fi channel would give them their show back and pay for it by cutting back on a Platypus vs Aardvark movie or two.
"The more specific a parody gets" by TerryMalloy	Jan 28th, 2008 10:39:06 AM
Right on. But I still love Young Frankenstein and you can't take that away from me!!!
RE:MST3K by cuthbert84	Jan 28th, 2008 10:43:59 AM
My understanding is that Joel wanted to do something with MST3K again, but Jim Mallon, former producer, owns all the rights to the name and has burned bridges with everyone else involved in the show. Joel couldn't do anything MST3K related if he wanted (and I think he did) without Mallon's say, and Mallon reportedly held up Mike Nelson's other project, The Film Crew, for over a year, claiming it was too close to MST3K.
The American audience are stupid... by MonkeyManReturns	Jan 28th, 2008 10:52:31 AM
...as evidenced by the fact that the Spartans piece of shit hot number one at the box office. I have no hope for Hollywood anymore. We're going to get so many more spoofs its gonna hurt more than watching Superman Returns in HD...and that would be torture..
Young Frankenstein Rocks! by flaggdrama	Jan 28th, 2008 10:57:45 AM
As far as I am concerned, YF is the greatest screen parody as it is SMART and does not pander to the least common denominator of filmgoer. It expects that you have seen and---GASP---liked/loved the original Frankenstein and Bride of Frankenstein. This is what dreck like Date Movie, Epic Movie, Spartans, etc. don't understand. Their idea of funny is simply throwing some inane, simplistic pop culture references on the screen and see which of the shit sticks! They do not have a heart.
WHY?!?!?! by psychoP.A.thic1	Jan 28th, 2008 10:58:57 AM
I was hesitant over how to react when hearing the news of 'John Rambo's expected box office victory- but when YAHOO news announced that Stallone's new 'arthritis-pumped' "mega-movie" fell short due to the unexpected ratings of 'Meet the SPARTANS'- For lack of a better phrase; I shit myself...(In a BAD WAY)-- God in HEAVEN WHY?!?!?!Kevin Sorbo in a mock movie? 'GOO-GOO GA-GA! AH!AH!'? WE GET IT! BRITTNEY IS A BAD PERSON! After you get your sin-stained checks for this abomination of a film- Might I recommend that you 'BLANK' movie writers go back to epitomizing Nickelodeon's standards... Peace.
Monkey Man returns is stupid! by Toby Wan	Jan 28th, 2008 11:06:16 AM
"The American audience 'are' stupid...." Bad English, man. I agree that Spartans sucked balls, though! I got pulled in the theatre after watching Rambo kick lots and lots of ass.....My buddies begged me to go watch it as a double feature Friday. In a drunken stupor, I said, "Sure, it can't suck THAT bad." I was wrong, it sucked worse that any movie EVER!!!!! The WORST FILM I HAVE EVER SEEN!!! DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME AND MONEY!!
after MTS by palewook	Jan 28th, 2008 11:24:52 AM
think i'm passing on this genre for a few decades.
This years little miss sky high by Pipple	Jan 28th, 2008 11:26:31 AM
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawnnn
Young Frankenstein sucked a little? by Jor-El23	Jan 28th, 2008 11:27:21 AM
are you fucking high? I'll admit parody is pretty low, but the ones that were great, like Young Frakenstein, Blazing Saddles, Airplane...don't inundate you with a barage of references, one after the other. That's the new way to do comedy. Cram a bunch of references to specific movies within the genre you're parodizing in 80 minutes, throw in some bodily fluids, a few cultural references and you have a movie. The great movies loosely parodized the entire genre and the conventions of those genres. When you're working with such a loose frame work you're freed up to put in the good stuff that people remember...mainly the great lines the "excuse me while I whip this out", the "i take it black, like my men" uttered by a 10 year old. the modern parody film is dead.
"Drunken Stupor" my ass by ampersand110	Jan 28th, 2008 11:27:39 AM
That excuse may work when you wake up next to a whale of a women, but even when you're drunk Meet The Spartans still looks (and sounds) like a piece of shit. You're whats wrong with America. BOOYAH!
MST3K IS back by miggymigs	Jan 28th, 2008 11:31:21 AM
It's called Cinematic Titanic now, and it's just movie-mocking without the trapped-in-space premise.
So my Family Guy comment is nuked by ArcadianDS	Jan 28th, 2008 11:53:04 AM
I posted this earlier - its oddly gone now. Anyway, how come half you guys who are panning this movie for 'non sequitur pop culture' comedy are also raving unabashed fans of Family Guy? Its the same dumb, uninspired, random pop culture garbage as Meet the Spartans, so I dont get how you can hate one and be a fan of the other.
it wasnt nuked by palewook	Jan 28th, 2008 11:58:41 AM
its in the mts thread.
The Specials? by edgreen86	Jan 28th, 2008 12:11:09 PM
Telling us that this fellow was involved with The Specials isn't the best of news. One of the biggest problems with that film was that in a movie with superheros, people should, well, use their powers. The Specials was a marginal film at best. Hopefully his being a comic book fan is a recent thing, because if he was a fan back when then... well...
Recently saw Airplane again by moviemaniac-7	Jan 28th, 2008 12:14:49 PM
Fuck, that was good. ZAZ were the best. My favourite spoof of all time must be Fistful of Yen in Kentucky Fried Movie. That just kills me every time I see it.
Uhhh... by maxjohnson1971	Jan 28th, 2008 12:29:24 PM
Anybody remember that movie that was out a couple months ago? "Walk Hard?" There was a parody done right. Laughed my ass off, and it tanked. Get my point?
RE: Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein by digitalcos	Jan 28th, 2008 12:33:19 PM
I'm I the only one who recognized that TerryMalloy was being sarcastic?
Hot Fuzz was never a spoof film. by Zakari Paolon	Jan 28th, 2008 12:38:43 PM
It doesn't mean I think Superhero! will suck, sounds not bad, but comparing it to Hot Fuzz is wrong, as Hot Fuzz was never intended as - nor does it ever feel like - a spoof. If anything it's an homage, a love letter.
We take Spoofing Seriously! by Chanoc	Jan 28th, 2008 01:28:24 PM
Should be the tag
Brent Spiner as a "whacked out scientist" by Chanoc	Jan 28th, 2008 01:29:21 PM
This year´s Little Mr. Christopher Lloyd
Meet the Spartans at the B.O. by HExTeXly	Jan 28th, 2008 01:51:35 PM
Look, I have no desire to see Meet the Spartans...but quit acting like it's universally the "worst movie of all time." There are/will be shittier movies my friends. Lazy? Idiotic? Sure, but it made a bunch of money over the weekend--so SOMEONE that's reading this probably went and saw it!!! Why is that? Probably because that's the kind of crap the average casual movie fan digs. Is that right? Should people have better taste in movies? NO, that's why it's "personal taste" and not "Rabid AICN-fanboy taste."
Stay Away! Stay Away! by Gungan Slayer	Jan 28th, 2008 02:05:58 PM
Is what I say!
But But But....... by flaggdrama	Jan 28th, 2008 02:33:08 PM
......."Rabid AICN-fanboy taste" is the one true opinion, dammit!
lol "adroit" by El Bean0r Peen0r	Jan 28th, 2008 03:06:18 PM
he said "adroit."
people looked at defoes goblin with a straight face?? by slappy jones	Jan 28th, 2008 03:36:55 PM
that hardly seems prime to be mocked when it was hilariously awful to begin with
the problem with most of these modern spoof films by slappy jones	Jan 28th, 2008 03:41:53 PM
is they don't say anything about the things they are spoofing...they don't comment on it or do anything clever or funny with it..they just chuck up a guy dressed like borat for no reason ..and then that is the joke. there is no actual punchline the entire gag is just to make you go "haha theres borat. I saw that film" or "haha hes nacho libre. i saw that film" and that is about as clever as they get. flying high actually took the piss out of its sunject matter. it truly spoofed it. it didn;t juts have a guy appear in a batman costume and thats it. if they did something like that they would normally have a great punchline. these modern day ones have no jokes...no cleverness. they are just loud, tiring lazy messes. There is no point going on about meet the spartans. the trailer was clear for all to see. if you like that type of thig
damn by slkboxrman	Jan 28th, 2008 03:42:53 PM
someone beat me, i was gonna say that HOT FUZZ wasnt a spoof, but i got beat.... i still plan on seeing SPARTANS, it looks better than the first 2 scary movies, which i thought were horrible, i loved when zucker took over the scary movie franchise, it really gave it new life and comedy over the crude toilet and gay humor the wayans gave it...so hopefully superhero will be just as good....who knows
MonkeyManReturns by smackfu	Jan 28th, 2008 03:52:07 PM
when you make a post calling someone else stupid, it's imperative that you spell all your words right, and use proper grammar, otherwise your entire post is ironic and only serves to mock you, which I'm sure is not the intention. Anyway, your title should have read 'The American audience is stupid'. An audience is a single thing, despite it being a collection of people, in the same sense that a flock of birds is a single thing. The audience is stupid. The people in the audience are stupid. Retard.
I think I saw this already by The Funketeer	Jan 28th, 2008 04:04:43 PM
It was called Spider-Man 3
BrowncoatJedi is the easiest, laziest form of poster by scudd	Jan 28th, 2008 04:06:31 PM
Yeah, I said it.
Hot Fuzz wasn't a spoof movie by voxmortis	Jan 28th, 2008 04:19:52 PM
...it was a homage.
supervillian by nippleslipz	Jan 28th, 2008 04:20:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =GvJkjqqI22Q
Yes, I was being sarcastic by TerryMalloy	Jan 28th, 2008 04:21:42 PM
Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein obviously do not suck. I was trying to point out that Mel Brooks was not a lazy moron.
super villain (without the space) by nippleslipz	Jan 28th, 2008 04:26:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =GvJkjqqI22Q
The Parody Formula by BrowncoatJedi	Jan 28th, 2008 05:01:00 PM
Take other people's ideas, then make them ridiculous. Instant comedy! So easy a 3rd grader can write it! And they often do.
HexTexly....you're wrong. by Brians Life	Jan 28th, 2008 05:26:04 PM

Hot Fuzz... a little bit of a spoof by password.swordfish	Jan 28th, 2008 05:58:36 PM
No, it wasn't balls to the walls mocking, but there was definitely a satirical tone to it. It was very clear that Wright and Pegg have a love for the buddy-cop movie, but they also recognize and gently tease about the shortcomings of the conventions in such flicks. And I agree that parody done well results in some of my fave comedies: Top Secret (as mentioned before... fucking genius), Airplane, Naked Gun, Young Frankenstein, the original Producers. This stuff is comedy gold people! The best part about a good parody is that no one learns and grows. I don't want that schmaltzy shit in my comedies!
Yeah but technically... by Napoleon Park	Jan 28th, 2008 06:09:21 PM
The movie sounds good, the review was encouraging and helpful. But technically, when the writer says: "I recently attended a sneak of a new spoof that doesn't just reverse the decline, but stops it in its tracks."... Um, if something is in a decline, wouldn't reversing it and getting better actually be better than simply halting the decline in its tracks? Just sayin', that phrase might have been through through better. Okay, I'll read the talkback now.
finally..... by phalaughul	Jan 28th, 2008 06:52:17 PM
some redemption, surely you don't mean that.... i do and don't call me shirley lol
CuervoJones by uVa	Jan 28th, 2008 06:52:47 PM
Top Secret was AWESOME. So many great moments, and almost all of them are executed well. Watching it now, I still pick up new jokes in the background, years later. It shows that the filmmakers had a real love for the material, and that Val Kilmer had not yet been tainted by the forces of evil. Also it has a shot showing a commuter running to catch a train station (not a train.) Awesome.
Yackbacker, Brent Spiner can be amusing by Shut the Fuck up Donny	Jan 28th, 2008 07:25:34 PM
when he's working with the right material. I had the pleasure of seeing him at DragonCon last year with Frakes and McFadden, and he was pretty witty and knew how to work an audience. The problem is (from what I can tell) is that he is so terribly typecasted as Data that he has few roles offered to him. Since "he gotta eat," he takes them--and unfortuately they waste his potential. I'm not going to say he's a comedic genius, but I'm just saying if given the opportunity, he could do better than "Master of Disguise"-level humor.
Not Another!! by Series7	Jan 28th, 2008 07:59:37 PM
Teen movie I feel gets unjustly heaped into the pile of crap Epic/Date/Comeback/Spartan movies. Not Another Teen movie was funny as shit, its not an intelligent spoof like Fuzz, but it does what Epic/Date/Comeback/Spartans tries to do but successfully. Plus the people involved with Not Another started that title trend and have had nothing to do with any of those other movies, and people involved with those movies had nothing to do with Not Another. The director of Not, went on to direct that funny as hell Matrix 2 parody from the MTV awards. Thats pretty much all he does now. Hopefully he gets back to making movies. Oh also Not Another was an R like parodies should be.
total plizant by reckni	Jan 28th, 2008 10:21:13 PM
All I want to know is if Anna Faris is in it. I must win her.
Well, it has one of the two requirements for a good spoof... by br1947	Jan 28th, 2008 10:49:54 PM
Leslie Nielsen or Mel Brooks. I can't think of a single good spoof that did not have one or the other connected to it. I like Brent Spinner... as Data. That's it. Seems like a nice guy, but comedy is just not his thing. I'd like to see him try a seriously dark & evil villian. Nothing redeeming, just pure fucking evil. Some of his best work was as Lore.
Spiner is good -- wish we'd see more of him by Prof. Pop-Cult	Jan 28th, 2008 11:32:12 PM
Anybody here see the Howard Hughes bio, The Avatar? He was pretty decent in that. He should do more serious roles, and avoid the comical and high concept junk if possible.
Aviator, I mean... by Prof. Pop-Cult	Jan 28th, 2008 11:32:47 PM
TYPO. My bad.
Stop finding spoofs funny by Lone Fox	Jan 29th, 2008 02:29:47 AM
Directing 2 of the Scary Movies franchise was actually used as a recommendation in this review. Hilarious!
Smackfu and Toby Wan by MonkeyManReturns	Jan 29th, 2008 05:00:22 AM
You are scholar sirs. I bow down to your superb English skills. Give the man a medal. I, hahaha, foolishly wrote 'are' instead of 'is'...haha...boy do I feel dumb. Ahem. How is this, sir? THE AMERICAN AUDIENCE IS STUPID. Or, THE AMERICAN AUDIENCE IS FUCKING STUPID. How is that? Is that better?
I'm sorry, but I love the ZAZ/Proft spoof flicks by Mattapooh	Jan 29th, 2008 05:31:40 AM
Airplane, Kentucky Fried Movie, Naked Gun, Hot Shots, even the last couple of Scary Movies had their moments (the spoof on Signs' home video footage of the alien, for example). Just referencing stuff doesn't make it funny like this Meet The Spartans garbage seems to think. There's a certain level of completely fucking retarded humour combined with wit and irony in the Zucker/Abrahams/Zucker and Proft flicks that I'll always enjoy. Even the dumbest of jokes are funny because we're laughing at just how dumb they are, and that's pretty hard to pull off.
Post a trailer by Dazzler69	Jan 29th, 2008 06:47:21 AM
I have not heard of this.
Teenagers eat this junk up by rev_skarekroe	Jan 29th, 2008 09:56:51 AM
That's why "Meet the Spartans," "Epic Movie," etc. are so successful.
"Oh also Not Another was an R like parodies should be." by rev_skarekroe	Jan 29th, 2008 09:58:23 AM
"Airplane" and "Top Secret" were PG. The "Naked Gun" films were PG-13. And "Police Squad" was tame enough for prime-time network television.
meet the spartans meet my complete disdain of you by crimsonsplendor	Jan 29th, 2008 10:04:14 AM
so i went to see rambo on saturday. the theater it was in was maybe half full (of people that fucking LOVED the shit out of, mind you). the rest of the multifuckoplex was full of 1) older couples seeing the bucket list (hey, what better way to face your inevitable death than by watching two stars do the same).... and people.. lots and lots of people going to see Meet the Spartans. not just that. EXCITED to see it. re-read that last sentence. they were... looking forward to seeing what amounts to sensory and mental gang rape. saddest part, a good chunk of them were college age. that's right. legally able to go see rambo no questions asked.... and they're lined up to see meet the spartans. these are people that not only watched all the scary movies, date movies, epic movies, skullfucking your mom movies. and thought 'dude, those movies are so fuckin funny, i hope spartans lives up to those comedy gold standards.' i have friends that love those movies and look at me like a dog smelling a fart when i bring up the comedy gold of Hot Fuzz. these movies (or anything with the name Wayan attached) is the reason why a lot of the general public don't appreciate the work screenwriters do. (WGA, distance yourself from these plague-bearers like you would if they wore Klan robes to award shows). point of this rant being: lowest-common-denominator garbage in any genre will always beat any halfway decent film at the box office, and that blood money will ensure the flood of shit never ends. wait and see. if SUPERHERO! is even a step closer to being enjoyable, funny, or entertaining then the last 15 years of spoof enemas it will bomb like the enola gay, and be outperformed by the latest Wayans vehicle, 'Fuck The Audience'. At least we're bringing democracy to Iraq.
whoa "I Dunno" by lucky slevin	Jan 29th, 2008 11:00:08 PM
back up here. am i the only one that will stand up for Robin Hood: Men in Tights?
rev_skarekroe by Series7	Jan 30th, 2008 08:20:55 PM
ehhhhhhh whatever. Hot Fuzz was an R so booyah!
TRAILER ONLINE by Jubba	Jan 31st, 2008 04:54:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =9SEVcpakHgQ
According to the trailer... by F69	Feb 1st, 2008 01:22:11 PM
According to the trailer it's offically called 'Superhero Movie' Looks like they're not trying very hard to distance themselves from those other crapfests.

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