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Whoa... for a second I thought it said Clint Eastwood...
by anchorite
Mar 27th, 2008
04:27:53 AM
directed a zombie movie. Then I re-read it and saw that he directed the Changeling. That made more sense to me. But wouldn't an Eastwood-directed zombie movie be cool? He could even star in it as the zombie. Not much of a stretch.
Sounds Interesting.
by Stranamore
Mar 27th, 2008
04:28:10 AM
Clinto Eastwood saying, "Braaiiiiiiinnnnsssss"...
by anchorite
Mar 27th, 2008
04:28:58 AM
while shuffling along Sunset Blvd. at 3 AM would be pretty cool.
Love the book
by m_reporter
Mar 27th, 2008
04:32:04 AM
Hope mori is right, I really have a hard time seeing this material as a feature film.
And the director will probably be....
by JumpinJehosaphat
Mar 27th, 2008
04:34:30 AM
....Brett Ratner! Why? Because fuck 'em, that's why!
I like JMS when he isn't ruining Spider-Man
by IndustryKiller!
Mar 27th, 2008
04:42:20 AM
Seriously, one of the worst Spider-Man runs in Marvel history. Looking forward to The Changeling though and I really hope someone directs this that's up to the material.
Could be the greatest horror series ever
by Cablecasual
Mar 27th, 2008
04:43:11 AM
This is probably the one of the greatest horror books ever written, I was gobsmacked by the detail of how the plague spread and how the world coped and how the global politics came into play and affected the way the world fought back. Mt first thoughts on putting the book down was that this could and should be made into an epic series, but knew this would never happen, my only hope was that it would at least be a trilogy following the rise, the fall of civilisation and the final fight back and victory as 3 films (although that would make for one of the darkest middle films ever). That was all wishful thinking, but was happy to see it was being written by JMS (big Bab 5 fan back in the day). I really hope this is as good as stated above, the book deserves it and deserves a wider audience, many friends just dismiss it as pulp horror and refuse to read it....
An Awesome Script Demands An Awesome Director:
by Bald Evil
Mar 27th, 2008
04:45:21 AM
Who else but Michael Bay? *BOOM*
"fresh off his success on THE CHANGELING"?
by tonagan
Mar 27th, 2008
05:28:44 AM
I'm going to have to turn in my geek card, because I have no idea what that is.
Tonagan...
by TheRealMoriarty
Mar 27th, 2008
05:31:45 AM
... I apologize.

THE CHANGELING is a script that JMS wrote as a spec that turned into a fairly big-ticket film that just finished shooting. It's the story of a mother during the Depression who is ignored by the police when her son disappears. Years pass, he shows back up, and everyone's thrilled except for her... since she's convinced that the boy that returned is not her son at all. It's a true story, and one of the great things about the script is how far JMS goes to establish that in an age where "based on a true story" means less and less.

AWESOME....BUT...?
by superzero
Mar 27th, 2008
05:44:09 AM
How is the movie going to be FILMED? Documentary style? Or just plain old regular style? When I heard this was going to be a movie I thought it could work really well as a Ken Burns type documentary except with zombies. Should be good if they do it in a style that presents itself as differently as the book did.
Clarified...
by TheRealMoriarty
Mar 27th, 2008
06:01:17 AM
... since that Eastwood mention confused two of you. It was a mighty awkward sentence originally...
The Progeny of Mel Brooks
by onusbone
Mar 27th, 2008
06:03:52 AM
Who woulda thought that Mel would bang Anne Bancroft, and their son would specialize in Zombie books?
I really, really have to get around to reading this book
by Tourist
Mar 27th, 2008
06:05:15 AM
I keep putting it off, because, honestly, it sounds ass. Alternate history sorta sci fi zombiedom, long after zombies ran out of steam. Yet I haven't heard a single even moderately negative thing said about it, and tons of great things. But if the scripts great, and the film turns out to be, maybe I should wait...on a semi related note, I found the post zombiegeddon world of FIDO fascinating and underexplored.
I would rather see a cable miniseries
by Ironmuskrat
Mar 27th, 2008
06:12:34 AM
What I like most about the book was the epic feel of the struggle against the zombies. It really is a world war, with stories taking places at all corners of the globe, under the sea and even in space.

However as someone mentioned earlier, to do justice to the material you really need to do at least two movies to cover the world wide scope of the story. I just have a bad feeling that any attempt to squeeze the book into a two hour movie will fail.

I think a four or five part miniseries would better cover the material.

Moriarty, are the flashback re-enacted or
by beastie
Mar 27th, 2008
06:53:08 AM
are they supposed to be found footage? Is the film supposed to be a mockumentary? Just asking, because I curious as hell to see how someone would interpret this to the big screen.
I don't care who
by hallmitchell
Mar 27th, 2008
06:55:32 AM
Yet I want a mexican born director on this.
hopefully it includes
by dutch75
Mar 27th, 2008
06:56:55 AM
the pilot crashing in the swamps of Louisiana. In my opinion that was the best account in the book. For those of you that haven't read it yet, you've got to introduce yourself to "Zack".
2 questions
by Darth Sicilian
Mar 27th, 2008
07:00:15 AM
1) Does the srcipt as written leave open the possibility of sequels? I always thought the book would be perfect for a trilogy of films each showcasing three or four zombie "events" 2) Does the current script include the Battle of Yonkers?
Zack Snyder...
by Abin Sur
Mar 27th, 2008
07:03:42 AM
Hasn't he also been throwing around the idea of a 2nd zombie movie on a worldwide scale? Would LOVE to see a Battle of the Epic Zombie movies one summer, ala "Deep Impact vs. Armageddon."
JMS: enough said
by br1947
Mar 27th, 2008
07:03:53 AM
I'll watch it!
Read the script, totally agree
by RenoNevada2000
Mar 27th, 2008
07:08:50 AM
Mori- I read the script a few weeks ago and I loved it. Fans of the book are going to be annoyed that a favorite segment or two didn't make the cut, but JMS was writing a two-hour movie, not a 20 hour cable mini-series.
My only caveat is that the end feels like an echo of the ending of the JMS-penned CRUSADE episode "The Visitors From Down The Street."
I've never read the book, so the material was fresh for me and some of the events, particularly the winter encampment with Gerry and his family and some of the other survivors, comes off as both horrific and heartbreaking at the same time.
Endorsed by Simon Pegg!
by Riley Martin
Mar 27th, 2008
07:24:19 AM
Not sure if you have this on the US print of the book, but the Australian print has this on the cover - "This is an absolute must have, not only for fans of the zombie genre, but also for fans of that most curious of literary beasts, the non-fiction fiction. Brooks infuses his writing with such precise detail and authenticity, one wonders if he knows something we don’t". SIMON PEGG
I asked Mori a question, but I'll take an answer from RenoNevada
by beastie
Mar 27th, 2008
07:42:08 AM
I'm just curious whether it's written in documentary style or like a more traditional narrative.
Could be to the next decade what The Exorcist was to the 1970s
by Midnightxpress
Mar 27th, 2008
07:43:12 AM
Seriously, great book to great film, becoming part of western culture as a result
also..somebody film Keane's The Rising ASAP
by Midnightxpress
Mar 27th, 2008
07:56:50 AM
best zombie novel not called WWZ ever...
Best horror book written in years. Go read it now!
by HarryBlackPotter
Mar 27th, 2008
08:04:42 AM
And no, I'm not the author. Seriously, it's such a compelling and frightening read (loved the story of the Jap kid trapped in a huge tower block after WWZ kicks off). Max Brooks makes Romero look like one of his zombies, really.
Probably Give it to...
by BoggyCreekBeast
Mar 27th, 2008
08:05:57 AM
Mr. Rush Hour... Hollywood + zombies = no effort on studios part.
Well......
by Phimseto
Mar 27th, 2008
08:15:46 AM
...I enjoyed "World War Z" but there was some extraordinarily hammy political stuff in there. Still, the book gets a pass because of the North Korea stuff. Proof that it really is better if you can avoid showing the monster.
something moderately negative about the book...
by bonkers
Mar 27th, 2008
08:23:53 AM
"I am weary of all things zombie." I feel like all of modern American storytelling has been reduced to "this is such a cool idea etc etc". Well, i'm bored with cool ideas, because they haven't been paying off lately. The book was a gift, i read it because "it's such a cool idea" then regretted it because ultimately, how many storytellers can actually deliver on the big pitch of that cool idea? It's well written, and i don't disagree that it will make pretty pictures on the big screen, but ultimately there isn't much there. I own Shakespeare in Love and Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, saw them in the theatres, was blown away by the storytelling and their "cool ideas" and haven't put the bloody things in my player since i bought them "because i MUST own these" 8 years ago. Raiders, oddly, the first time i heard the one-sentence blurb on that (an archaeologist seeks the Lost Ark of the Covenant) sounded awful, i couldn't believe Lucas was going to burn his good credit on such a dumb idea. It still sounds dumb, but no movie ever delivered such a ride. Please, stop with the cool ideas that set fanboys knees to shaking, gimme seemingly mundane ideas and mind-blowing storytelling. Surprise me. That would be cool.
No time to read?
by mmxstryker
Mar 27th, 2008
08:35:03 AM
I highly suggest the audiobook. It won a 2007 Audie Award. It's voiced by Mark Hamill, Alan Alda, Henry Rollins, Rob Reiner, Carl Reiner, Jürgen Prochnow, and John Turturro.
I second that
by WatertownSurfer
Mar 27th, 2008
08:38:13 AM
The audio book is amazing, but abridged.
This has the potential to be an amazing film
by Stuntcock Mike
Mar 27th, 2008
08:39:30 AM
Knock on wood. The book is great.
The dude who made Babel?
by PotSmokinAlien
Mar 27th, 2008
08:58:53 AM
Alejandro Inarritu might be a really good pick to direct this. applying his sledgehammer moralizing to reality is tough to take, i really didn't care for Babel or 21 grams... but applying it to a somber zombie movie that sounds like it's got a lot of social commentary going on-- that could be totally brilliant.
It's Fairly Obvious: Alfonso Cuarón to direct!
by Unlabled
Mar 27th, 2008
09:01:25 AM
I mean, it does have the look and feel of Children of Men and Cuaron is a bad ass motherfucker. It makes perfect sense. Too bad this will wind up being a McG movie
Great Read
by Uridium
Mar 27th, 2008
09:12:47 AM
I read this last year and it is really worth the time. Very well written and a great read! I hope they dont f' this up in converting to film.
Zombie Survival Guide
by 0dd
Mar 27th, 2008
09:15:13 AM
I just recently got ZSG, my wife bought it for me. I really enjoyed how it was setup and I have been wanting to get my hands on a copy of WWZ. I loved how the intelligence shown through in the suggestion for weapons and hideouts.
To shoot this thing...
by mukhtabi
Mar 27th, 2008
09:19:26 AM
Coming from the documentary film background at American University, I would think the best cinematic style for such a project would involve the Michael Moore 'show the interviewer and interviewee' thing, combined with HD shot reenactments. That's my two cents.
Too bad it isn't Clint
by Neosamurai85
Mar 27th, 2008
09:21:19 AM
That would be pretty badass. At first I thought that this was saying he was directing THE CHANGELING, as in a remake of the film that made Wheelchairs scary. Though he's one of the few people out there that I would go along with such a remake, I'm glad that by making this film with the same title we won't get some jackass remaking it with speed editing and torture porn. All and all... good news!
The more I think about it... Clint would be perfect for this.
by Neosamurai85
Mar 27th, 2008
09:24:44 AM
Think Flags of Our Fathers with all the darkness of Million Dollar Baby, Unforgiven and... yeah. He really would be a cool choice. Maybe not "perfect" but a very interesting choice anyway.
Michael Bay!
by santi01
Mar 27th, 2008
09:27:17 AM
Do your magic!
asking again
by filmweasel
Mar 27th, 2008
09:28:04 AM
I also want to know how are the flashbacks going to be shown? I think the best way is just have the narrator meet the subject, ask a question and as the subject begins his story, we fade into a look at the actual events, not a "re-enactment".
Ken Burns Style
by filmweasel
Mar 27th, 2008
09:30:00 AM
Somebody mention doing it Ken Burns' style, and I agree that could be good too, but only if you were making it as a super low budget. Where you mostly had interview footage, and then narration over some photoshoped pics and maybe a little handheld news or home made footage
freakin' awsome book
by krustytheklown
Mar 27th, 2008
09:38:07 AM
Ive read alot of books in my years, but after just finishing world war Z last week, i can say this is one of the top five books ive ever read. brilliant!if they can make a movie out of this material im there opening night. as a matter of fact, im going to go pick up max brooks zombie survival guide tomorrow.
To do this book justice
by Slavestate
Mar 27th, 2008
09:40:53 AM
I would have to agree with the Ken Burns style, OR do it up kind of like Band of Brothers style. There's lots of stories that can be told in great detail each week, instead of condensing it into 2hrs. Which I don't think is enough time for this book.
Spoiler Alert! (If you didin't read the book)
by Raymar
Mar 27th, 2008
09:41:52 AM
Isn't China supposed to be a democracy after their civil war? Or is the whole submarine sub-plot left out? Cuz that was awesome. And also I want to see Bill Maher and Ann Coulter star in this as themselves.
Well, you know Eastwood has directed a zombie movie before......
by Milton Waddams
Mar 27th, 2008
09:42:30 AM
It was called Space Cowboys and it was a piece of shit.
The Book...
by rutgersjaffo
Mar 27th, 2008
09:43:43 AM
I enjoyed the book, but I don't by any means think it was 'brilliant' or anything of the sort. It was uneven, plodding, and really didn't have much by way of anything Earth-shaking in terms of style. It tells the same old zombie story. All it does is picks up the story from minute one and runs with it. That's all. Some of the things in it aren't even really fleshed-out that well. The South African guy's plan for the decoys is an example. What was so bad about it? Why did everyone hate him so much for it? How did that all even work out? We are never told these things. Again, good book, but not the great piece of literature some want to make it. As far as any movie EVER being made from it which will be 'Oscar material' is concerned...get real. Ain't gonna happen. It will be another zombie movie. At the end of the day, there is nothing new here: The dead come back to life, the dead eat the living, the living do not cooperate, the dead win for the most part. Sure i'll go see it, but for crying out loud, it's just a zombie movie, dude...
I'd like to see JMS return to form
by Funketeer
Mar 27th, 2008
09:49:52 AM
He's much better when he's creating his own material than when he's adapting/ruining someone else's. His comics work has gone from great (Rising Stars, Midnight Nation, etc...) to horrible (anything he adapted for Marvel). Supreme Power was the last good comics work he produced and that was barely an adaptation. I'm looking forward to the Eastwood movie but I'm wary of this zombie thing.
Beastie-
by RenoNevada2000
Mar 27th, 2008
09:51:38 AM
The flashbacks are pretty much handled the way that filmweasel suggested they be- "the narrator meet the subject, ask a question and as the subject begins his story, we fade into a look at the actual events, not a 're-enactment'."
Judging from the various things from the book that people are asking about, there's seems to be a lot that couldn't be fit in. Off the top of my head, besides the stuff Mori mentions in his review, the only thing that is in the script that I recall that has been asked about is the Battle of Yonkers. And the way JMS describes it sounds insane.
READ THIS BOOK!!!! and should i be worried???
by Brians Life
Mar 27th, 2008
10:08:13 AM
This is easily one of my favorite fiction reads of the last year (up there with TIME TRAVELER'S WIFE).

For those that have read the script, the direction JMS was going worried me a bit. Should I not be? I mean, my ideal concept for adapting this would be a Ken Burn's style docu-drama...not gonna happen....

Love me some JMS (other than his Spider-Man run), but I'm cautiously optimistic.
Oh, and the editor in the book isn't nameless...
by Brians Life
Mar 27th, 2008
10:09:00 AM
...it's Max Brooks. He puts his name on the character.
If liked book check out the audio book too!!!
by Brians Life
Mar 27th, 2008
10:10:16 AM
Looks like Max Brooks called in some favors from his dad for the audio read. It's abridged but the cast has Mark hamill, Alan Alda, Carl and Rob Reiner, Henry Rollins...it's entertaining and CREEPY as hell. Mark Hamill plays the solder from the Battle of Yonkers.
Cell is clown shoes compared to this book
by Brians Life
Mar 27th, 2008
10:14:22 AM
I enjoyed Cell, but like most Stephen King it completely falls apart at the end. WORLD WAR Z is not a narrative and I gotta assume that dude up ther RutersJaffo didn't finish reading it if he has those types of questions.

It's a collections of interviews from supposed survivors and nothing more.
This Could Be Amazing
by smallerdemon
Mar 27th, 2008
10:16:46 AM
I am hoping it is. God, please, don't hand this over to some talentless hack director. The book is incredible and haunted my thoughts for a long while after I read it.
This book needs miniseries treatment.
by Christopher3
Mar 27th, 2008
10:20:44 AM
It's an awesome piece of work, but I doubt it will hang together as a 2 hour movie.
Actually Brian...
by rutgersjaffo
Mar 27th, 2008
10:22:38 AM
...I read it twice. Please fill me in. There are many such things which aren't answered in the book. Like I said, I enjoyed it, but it's not great by any means at all. Would I have loved it to be great? Absloutely. Did I hope that it was going to be great? You bet I did. Was it great or brilliant or genre-defining? Nope. Not at all. It was a B+ book, nothing more. You gotta be honest about this stuff. It's just not as good as some people make it out to be. I really admire what he was going for, really I do. But the execution fell just short of great. But again, if you can provide answers about the South African Plan, I would love to hear them. Of course, you and I both know that they aren't contained anywhere in the book, so...
IndustryKiller! you idiot
by messi
Mar 27th, 2008
10:35:25 AM
most people say JMS' run is second to Stan. You are the embodiment of the aicn talkbacker. Maybe you didn't like his run but he knew how to write Spidey as a character and Peter too.
Rutgers Jaffo...I'll concede SOME...
by Brians Life
Mar 27th, 2008
10:43:24 AM
...of your points. That is, in the world of mainstream literature I DO think that it's fair to give the book a B plus rating. It's NOT a compelling narrative and it is just a collection of interviews...I'm a big zombie fan. So for me this was dish of the day, my friend.

I do have to disagree on your decision regarding the execution, if you were left wanting more than that's you...can't do anything about that...I never felt wanting for more answers.

I'm unclear what your question regarding the Soufrican plan was???

Why did people hate Paul Redeker? Really? You can't see why the masses would want to hang a guy who's plan was to save a "small percentage of the civilian population" and use the rest as zombie bait to help the evacuating military!? We are also exposed to a different version of this plan on most national levels (Germany, Pakistan, the US). What else are u unclear about?
Also...as far as the Zombie Literature Genre goes, Rutgers...
by Brians Life
Mar 27th, 2008
10:46:22 AM
...it was genre defining. I DO think it placed a high bar for most horror novels. While i said it wasnt a compelling NARRATIVE, I did not mean to say that it wasn't compelling.
Seconded on JMS' Spidey Run....
by Brians Life
Mar 27th, 2008
10:50:15 AM
...yeah, that was a mixed bag. I love his style and how he writes the character. I just fuckin' HATED the things that were happening to him.
Well...
by rutgersjaffo
Mar 27th, 2008
10:52:58 AM
One thing I am not clear on is how or why the people used as decoys needed to die. What I mean is, if the zombies were going to be attracted to these outposts, why not just kill them? I mean, the idea seemed to be that you leave these people in secure enough settings that they can survive long enough to attract the Zacks to begin with and then you just leave them there as a decoy. After all, if the zombies can just get at them immediately after they find them, they would just eat them and move on, right? So the places they were being left had to be fortified enough to keep the zombies out while the people were safe inside. If that is what was done, why not just snipe away at the undead while they are preoccupied with the decoys? Why would you bother to attract all of the zombies to one place and then just run away? How would you convince all of these people to allow you to herd them into such an area--especially after people hear about the plan? No way would people just stand there and take it. They would rather be shot now than eaten by zombies later. The whole South African Plan to me seemed like a plot device that was not thought all the way through. It's the little things like that which prevented me from seeing this book as more than a Blair Witch of zombie lit. But still, I did enjoy it and I am glad many others did too. I will go see the movie, but I don't expect a whole lot out of it...
One other thing...
by rutgersjaffo
Mar 27th, 2008
10:56:26 AM
The whole 'Zombie Vaccination Drug' thing didn't really work for me either. No way that would happen. The FDA, even in a time of crisis, has some pretty stern policies which would have prevented that from occurring. Again, nice idea, just not thought all the way through is all...
I thought that the South African's plan
by shitstorm23
Mar 27th, 2008
10:57:19 AM
**spoilers**

was to use the media to convince the mass public one thing, so that the zombies would follow them and wipe them out. During that the govt and a select group would go somewhere strategic to stave off all of the Zs, regroup and then go about cleaning up. This would kill off almost a third to a half of your entire population, which some might consider a little callous. Millions die now, so thousands can live later. It only makes sense, but still people kill each other over dumb shit, how would they feel about knowing their govt set them and their family up to be bait?

I thought the book was good at coming up with a real life look at how the world would handle zombies. I enjoyed reading how the infection spreads so quickly and how easy it would be to avoid them, except common sense is thrown out the windor during a crisis. It could be a good movie if done right, but something tells me it might fall short.

Rutgers, If I may (possibly spoilers for those that..)
by Brians Life
Mar 27th, 2008
11:00:07 AM
...haven't read the book.)

From the segment which took place in Germany after the Redeker one, I surmised that they weren't necessarily organizing survivors into strongholds. They were already there. From various weeks of runhing and trying to survive. The military was simply withdrawing to the designated safepoints.

I also understood we were talking about a ragtag military that was constantly withdrawing and outnumbered. At one point they mention 200 million zombies in the continental US.

The military needed to retreat, regroup, re-arm, change tactics....also remember that at one point the world seems content to merely "wait it out"....that the numbers are so daunting that they think they should just hide until they're all decayed.

Good talk...see you out there.
Director, director, director...
by TroutMaskReplicant
Mar 27th, 2008
11:00:36 AM
Plan B might mean Pitt will star. I wonder how that would go. People give out for suggesting that Peter Jackson should direct everything large scale, but the guy who brought the world Braindead and the Battle of Helm's Deep might have something to bring to this...
Well...
by rutgersjaffo
Mar 27th, 2008
11:02:07 AM
I do agree that it would work great as a 3-movie epic. That would really allow the whole thing to be fleshed out. And again, with the South African thing, it just doesn't logically work out is all i'm saying. Didn't the guy say he was working on a sequel?
agreed, Shitstorm...(spoilers)..and Rutgers...
by Brians Life
Mar 27th, 2008
11:04:33 AM
...the general public was never aware that the military was going to abandon them.

And while they never say how many civilians were to die Redeker does say that the plan only accounts for "a very small percentage of the civilian population."

THANK GOD I LIVE WEST OF THE ROCKIES!!

Rutgers, you just named one of two segments in the book that I disagree with. The other being the former Presidential Cheif of Staff that is literally shoveling shit. Both come across as WAY too on the nose. And yeah, the idea of a corp. making a fake vaccine is brilliant, the execution was a bit off. Ya got me on that one, skippy.
Fair enough...
by rutgersjaffo
Mar 27th, 2008
11:05:20 AM
If nothing else, he did do a nice job of going global with all of the breakdowns. And I really did enjoy the zombies in the water and the zombies thawing out in the spring ideas. That was a nice way of making sure that absolutely nowhere but the Arctic would be safe. Good talkin at ya Brian, see ya around...
DUDE (spoilers)
by Brians Life
Mar 27th, 2008
11:07:35 AM
The idea that even when the world is safe, there are still millions of them on the bottom of the ocean....CREEEEEEEPY!!!
Absolutely!
by rutgersjaffo
Mar 27th, 2008
11:13:28 AM
If nothing else, I look forward to that chaotic scene in India(?) when all of the people were trying to get on the ships and you first learn that--duh!--zombies don't drown. The idea of those ghost ships floating around the oceans filled with the undead was pretty cool I have to admit!
rutgersjaffo
by The Llama
Mar 27th, 2008
11:23:24 AM
You read the book twice, even though you didn't care for it the first time? I call bullshit on that. Not to mention that the South African plan is at the center of all the nations' anti-zombie strategies, so I'm rather puzzled how you could make it through the book--twice--and not realize that the plan revolved around using people as bait in order to pull zombies into concentrated centers to easily wipe them out. I'll agree that the book isn't brilliant literature, but it's a tightly-written, well-conceived piece of work.
Paul Redeker
by Ironmuskrat
Mar 27th, 2008
11:24:13 AM
I think he was hated because his "South African" plan was originally conceived as a way to deal with a uprising of the black population during apartheid in South Africa. He was one of those useful lunatics that people are forced to listen to in a time of crisis, but you would never allowed to have a say in a normal society.

If only the governments of the world had listened to Israel they might not have found themselves forced to follow Redeker's plan. But that is one of the things I liked about the book, there are no heroes in the story, just average people doing heroic things to survive and fight back.

Thank you RenoNevada.
by beastie
Mar 27th, 2008
11:24:31 AM
Really hoping this project gets a greenlight.
The whole FDA thing
by shitstorm23
Mar 27th, 2008
11:25:10 AM
was a little hokey, but I think he was going for a social commentary on how drugs are the first thing people look to in our society when something is wrong. I doubt that a drug like that would really get put through so quickly or at all. But making sense of it from a govt standpoint, getting people to chill out long enough to formulate a plan, made sense.

Brians Life - I never really even thought about the ocean dwellers! That is some scary shit.

Love the depiction of Israel, Palestine, China...
by Brians Life
Mar 27th, 2008
11:28:50 AM
SPOILERS...the idea that even in a time of a full on zombie outbreak, the more ultra orthodox element of the Israeli population instigates a civil war over the repatriation of Palestinians and the decision to not include Jersalem in the border defenses is delightful.

Love the scene w/ the palestinian father losing it as his son calls him a traitor for wanting to accept Israels help. "You WILL go!!" Getting more excited about this flick...hope it lives up to it.
Shitstorm,
by Brians Life
Mar 27th, 2008
11:33:49 AM
Yeah, the book was ripe with commentary. I enjoyed the American housewife that was oblivious to the situation completely until it was crashing through her window.

The dialogue is tight too. He give the characters a real voice. Whether it's the grunts spouting off weapon tech babble like it's a second language or the guy who's just been put in charge of reshaping america into full on ww2 era war production. I got a feel for the characters that I dont get in most depictions of this type.
The Israel thing...
by rutgersjaffo
Mar 27th, 2008
11:38:08 AM
Was spot-on, no doubt about that. And as far as 'calling bullshit' on me reading it twice, I did that just to make sure that I wasn't missing something as such. Same thing I did when I put myself through the hell of watching The Host twice--just to make sure it really did suck as badly as I felt it did after the first viewing. And again, my main issue with the whole SAP is the idea of getting the people to go along with it. Once word gets out, forget about it, no way it would work. Like I keep saying, I really liked what he tried to do, it just came up a little short in my opinion. If he had taken more time with it and allowed the book to be the larger size it probably should have been, I think it might have been better. Anyway, yes there was a lot of good stuff in it and I do look forward to seeing the movie--the undead rock!
"One thing I love today" is very Reader's Digest...
by Mister Man
Mar 27th, 2008
11:40:02 AM
Vintage 1975.
On that note...
by rutgersjaffo
Mar 27th, 2008
11:40:22 AM
Did any other zombie novel come out around the same time? Is it possible that he was rushed to finish this in order to beat something else to market?
What about Iceland?
by Ironmuskrat
Mar 27th, 2008
11:42:37 AM
The ending of the book left plenty of material for a book sequel. The situation in Iceland. What happened in North Korea? How to deal with the new governments in the world(Russia and China). Not only did Max Brooks create a great zombie story , he create a pretty interesting post apocalyptic world as well.
Impossible to make into a coherent movie!
by jah_kingdom
Mar 27th, 2008
12:35:49 PM
I read the book and don't think it can be filmed. A director should be very wary to attempt something like this. The flashbacks work in print but filming so many of them would be jarring to the viewer. Too much material to cover and just a waste of time to constantly go back to the point of view of the reporter. I'd take out the whole plot device using the interviewer and just show the events occurring in real time. If turned into a film I'm betting it goes straight to video.
JMS RULES!!
by thedoctor28
Mar 27th, 2008
12:36:18 PM
I loved B5 and Crusade.
I SECOND ALFONSO CUARON
by BenFerris
Mar 27th, 2008
01:17:41 PM
I was actually reading the book around the time Children of Men came out. Having both experiences back to back made me get a clear image of what this movie should look like. I can't imagine someone better then Alfonso to do this movie.
I see them going to
by nolan bautista
Mar 27th, 2008
01:59:33 PM
..no other than the man himself..ladies and gentlemen(dead and undead)..the director of WWZ..Mr.George A. Romero..
Michael Stipe
by waytaay
Mar 27th, 2008
02:00:26 PM
hopefully he makes a cameo appearance as himself.
LISTEN TO THE AUDIOBOOK
by blakes7
Mar 27th, 2008
02:05:07 PM
If you want to have an idea of how the movie would play out, just listen to the very well produced audiobook of world war z. It has some big-name Hollywood actors starring in it and it's done pretty good. The book would NOT make a good movie. It WOULD make a great mini-series like on HBO or Showtime. Sci-Fi network would just fuck it up. The one thing I did not like about the book is that the zombie plague is supposedly based on rabies, and that's fine, like in most modern "realistic" zombie movies. However, Brooks makes the zombies neigh immortal and practically indestructible.
Zack is almost incidental (spoilers),,,
by Mavra Chang
Mar 27th, 2008
02:08:32 PM
The people and their individual reactions to crisis are the real focus of the book. That's what makes this book so great. Zombies or no zombies, when the end is near are people going to work together, save their own asses,find someone to blame without solving the problem, or just give up altogether? I thought that the characters were very realistic. How many of us would not notice the world had ended until no one was left online to talk to? Would the rich and famous turn it into a party/"reality" show? Would you feed your neighbor to your starving child or kill your children in order to save them? Heavy stuff! I would love to see at least some of the people from the audiobook in this movie. I do believe that I read somewhere that Max Brooks didn't know ahead of time about the all-star reading (that it was a surprise). I really want this to be a great movie and I also hope that Mr. Brooks has many more books to share with us in his future.
Is everybody here braindead?
by nolan bautista
Mar 27th, 2008
02:10:08 PM
Give it to Romero!! He had a bigger version for Day of the Dead that never made it..he can handle this!!
jah-kingdom, did you not read,
by raw_bean
Mar 27th, 2008
02:10:34 PM
Or simply not believe, Moriarty's script review?

If the latter, try this one on for size as well: http://tinyurl.com/2kh4lv

monster island...
by mr ahole ramirez
Mar 27th, 2008
02:21:18 PM
...has anyone read Monster Island?...what a piece of shit...sure it had good ideas and whatnot, but the whole (spoilers) talkin zombie guy who can control other zombies because a MUMMY taught him how to, was so F'in stoopid...just listenin to that zombie guy talk in slang made that book terrible...(end spoilers)...
the segment in the book..
by nolan bautista
Mar 27th, 2008
02:22:51 PM
..on how celeberties handle the situation is fried gold!! Read it for yourselves!!
Romero has lost it so......no.
by drewlicious
Mar 27th, 2008
02:45:17 PM
Diary of the Dead is just truly unwatchable.
Romero fumbled the ball with Land...
by loafroaster
Mar 27th, 2008
02:47:44 PM
...then dropped the fuck out of it with Diary. Besides, he's got his own take on the zombie, that wouldn't tie in well with World War Z's. I say they'll get Andrew Dominik onboard, which wouldn't be a bad thing since he did such a good job with Pitt on Jesse James. I still say it'd work better as a TV series though, as the movie will probably cut a shit-load out.
Ohh..ok..
by nolan bautista
Mar 27th, 2008
03:12:25 PM
..just make sure that the zombies look like they just came out of a morgue..those are the creepiest ones..w/ the stitches and bandages and wounds
Please not Romero
by Stuntcock Mike
Mar 27th, 2008
03:20:07 PM
Fincher would be nice but...........
Greengrass
by Son of Hades
Mar 27th, 2008
03:45:09 PM
He's attached to another JMS-scripted project (They March Into Sunlight), but I reckon he'd be a perfect fit for this instead.
Can we stop fucking hating on Romero?
by kolchak
Mar 27th, 2008
04:03:06 PM
You people perpetuate a lot of bullshit, but in no way was Diary that bad.
Do It Ken Burns Docu Style Or Don't Bother
by LaserPants
Mar 27th, 2008
04:14:52 PM
Make it a cable miniseries or something like that. Yet another 90 minute zombie movie won't do it justice.
Kolchak..
by nolan bautista
Mar 27th, 2008
04:15:15 PM
..you tell 'em ..i'll cower behind you and watch your back
I'm reading this right now..
by Brunomac
Mar 27th, 2008
05:11:59 PM
..and it is really great. Not sure they can adapt the all-interview side of book. But the epic viuals - like the army fighting an army of hundreds of thousands of zombies in New Jersey, demand to be filmed. Fuck Romero and the shitty crap he makes now. This movie MUST be made!
Being Contrary
by Cobbio
Mar 27th, 2008
05:21:56 PM
I'm sure the book "World War Z" is well-written, and I've been a fan (mostly) of JMS for years, but I'm tired of zombies. Tired, like, stick a fucking gun in my mouth and pull the trigger tired of zombies.

They're not scary. Not remotely. Not anymore. So many films have been made about zombies that they've become laugh-track charicatures of themselves. Seriously, zombies suck. As do vampires, werewolves, ghosts, and other non-existant "horrors" that seem to entertain humans so easily. I'm tired of the old tropes.

Remember when writers came up with their own nutty lifeforms to write about? "Alien," anyone?" Head busting "Scanners?" How about the creepy crawly "Thing" (both versions) or any of the hundreds of well-developed, truly scary horrors from short stories and novels that filmmakers are too chickenshit to take a shot at?

I like JMS, and I'll likely see "Changeling" this winter, but another freakin' zombie movie? Even if it's big-budget, with a great director like Cuaron, it's still zombies. Everyone knows what they are, what they do, the threat they present, and their history. Sorry if I'm being a party pooper here, but unless the zombies in Max Brooks's story are of alien or bioengineered origin, thus not typical Romero-esque zombies, I'm not interested.

Because unlike zombies, aliens might actually exist.

Nobody here seemed to mention Zombie Survival guide
by Brunomac
Mar 27th, 2008
05:31:19 PM
- a really fun read, that I think gives Brooks the cred he needed to write a "serious" zombie story. On an epic scale
zombies would be no threat
by troutpencil
Mar 27th, 2008
05:52:14 PM
Everyone knows everything about them already. Not to mention the US Army is monstrous; lumbering decomposing corpses couldn't do shit to it.
The Book Was a C+/B-
by Ckuouka
Mar 27th, 2008
06:12:43 PM
It wasn't awful. In fact, I really liked it in the beginning and middle, and then the plan to recapture the United States just seemed too easy. Plus, I was very much bothered by the fact that the ONLY way to become a zombie was to be bitten. It takes a lot of the fear of death away, at least, to me. Still, if they made it exactly like the book, there's worse movies I've subjected myself to, I'm sure.
The Descent Director would be decent
by spidermanfreak20
Mar 27th, 2008
06:16:47 PM
He did Doomsday. This might be the boost his career needs. Or Jean-Jacques Annaud would be perfect as well.
Trout
by Brunomac
Mar 27th, 2008
06:21:35 PM
You didn't read the book then? An enemy whose forces get replenished every time somebody dies (sort of like Al Quida)or gets bitten. It's exponential.
imagine black hawk down
by troutpencil
Mar 27th, 2008
07:34:25 PM
If the Mogadishus had no guns and didn't know how to hide. Are they fast zombies in WWZ? If not, they'd suck even worse. The A-10 Thunderbolt uses a 30mm gatling gun that can fire, like, 5000 (depleted uranium) rounds per second, with about 80% accuracy, and it takes 2-3 rounds to totally destroy a tank. That is not a zombie fighting weapon, but it's an example of the kind of ridiculous overkill that modern warfare is all about.
*not per second
by troutpencil
Mar 27th, 2008
08:00:33 PM
Per minute.
script sounds good
by Live.
Mar 27th, 2008
08:04:20 PM
but who to direct? The obvious answer is naturally Michael Bay!

You know that would own your ass!

Zombie Survial Book is awesome: Not done for laughs, very seriou
by Stormwatcher
Mar 27th, 2008
10:00:06 PM
I have it at work. Most people laugh or think I am a geek which I am, but then they read a bit of it and see that its not some BS joke but a straight faced, what you should do, which is funny but at the same time, smart. I like to tell people its a great, worst case scenario book that can be used to look at regular problems from a different angle. Course I just love me some Zombies huge. That said having a baby I would HATE to see a Zombie Baby onscreen as that would F me up huge.
Another Rec For The AudioBook
by Saluki
Mar 27th, 2008
10:41:47 PM
Faaantastic audio book. Really gets in the mood with the spooky interludes. Everything is fine, but they take you back and it just sounds like hell from time to time. The imagery used to describe India sounds like chaos incarnate.
favorite scenes SPOILERS
by treewarrior
Mar 27th, 2008
11:14:25 PM
number one: the chapter detailing how all the Hollywood casting directors and agents and talent coordinators are forced to learn how to fix toilets and make shoes. Priceless! number two: the chapter on how the army incorporated dogs into the zombie fighting strategy. the part where the army dog handler is going crazy while her dog is being ripped to shreds by the zombies was tragic, emotional and brought a tear to this dog lover's eye. hope they include both scenes into the movie.
"One thing I love today" Retarded
by Mister Man
Mar 28th, 2008
12:04:25 AM
This could be great
by samsquanch
Mar 28th, 2008
02:06:19 AM
I loved the book.
Troutpencil...did u read WWZ?
by Brians Life
Mar 28th, 2008
02:30:00 AM
Wasn't clear...if you didn't, you should. There are sections that would be right up your alley.

I loved the descriptions of how the Military's overkill mentality is what fucked them. The Family of Latrines line cracks me up..."why? when all the toilets in all the houses where still flushing!?"

Funny. I always thought that a full scale zombie invasion would HALT at America's fighting power...but Brook's does a good job depicting how truly hard it is to just kill a massive amount of these fuckers w/o nuking a city.

I'm high as a fucking KITE!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
JMS is complete garbage. This movie will blow.
by Darksider
Mar 28th, 2008
03:50:05 AM
Babylon 5 sucked. Rising Stars sucked. He basically ended Spider-man in the comics. Now he's going to ruin this book too. What, was Akiva Goldsman too busy to ruin it?
"You think it's that simple?"
by stabbim
Mar 28th, 2008
07:25:35 AM

"You think after being trained to aim for the center mass your whole military career, you can suddenly make an expert head shot every time? You think in that straitjacket and suffocation hood it's easy to recharge a clip or clear a weapon jam? You think after watching all the wonders of modern warfare fall flat on their hi-tech hyper ass, and after already living through three months of the Great Panic and watching everything you knew as reality being eaten alive by an enemy that wasn't even supposed to exist, that you can keep a cool fucking head and a steady fucking trigger finger?

Well, we did. We still managed to do our job and make Zack pay for every fucking inch."

Goddamn, I love that book. No idea if it could ever work as a film, though.
If you read the book there's something for everyone.
by thareign23
Mar 28th, 2008
09:50:03 AM
i would love to see the book as a miniseries ala band of brothers , hbo get on this . I also wouldnt mind seeing a balls out movie based around the book ....its just too much that i love that will probably be left out !! And the sap was realistically the only way to survive . The army needed to regroup because as the book says the zacks can do total warfare and be behind it 100 % of the time humans can't . Plus they had to weed out the infected. finally the army could lose that was brillant in the book. After the Iraq incident the American spirit was diminished
Liked the book, but it is unfilmable...
by Kid Z
Mar 28th, 2008
10:23:43 AM
...unless they pulled a Wanted and changed everything about it, including it's central conceit. Oh well. Favorite scene: A bunch of rich Hollywood types, including a "spoiled whore who's famous only for being a spoiled whore" secure themselves a mercenary-protected luxury bunker to ride out the zombie menace. They also decide to set up web cams and broadcast everything a la Big Brother. When the shit hits the fans, it's not zombies attacking but desperate average citizens who blast through the walls and show no mercy. It's all told from the POV of one of the mercs who relates deciding to bug out and seeing the spoiled whore's rat dog doing the same, "We just stopped and looked at each other for a moment. I was like 'Where's your master?' 'Where's yours?' 'Fuck 'em!' and we both escaped out the back door."
you owned me xiphos
by troutpencil
Mar 28th, 2008
12:20:10 PM
I was going from memory, and only because the idea of that thing really intimidated me when I heard about it. I didn't want to look something up and achieve encyclopedic accuracy as if I was actually that educated on the subject, because I am not. But I did know that Mogadishu is in Somalia, I just wanted to call them either "Mogadishans" or "Mogadishus", "Mogadishans" sounds more likely today than it did yesterday. I think my skepticism may be sort of irrelevant having not read the book, and I may read it, but I still call bullshit on that conceit. Based on every zombie movie I've ever seen, the menace they present is overestimated. It has always bugged me about zombie movies and the book seems to me like Brooks is trying to cover for that mistake in the genre he is fond of. Can the zombies in the book climb? That would be a big boon to their tactics, because they can't do that in most movies. Which means you could sit on top of your house with a rifle and scope and kill hundreds of them. If they were climbers, though, you'd have to sit on a chimney or something more difficult, but the same idea. I dispute Brooks' idea that a machete is better because "you don't have to reload" or whatever he said in the survival guide, which I assume is presented in the novel. It is harder, for me personally, to swing any sort of heavy weapon (machete's aren't that heavy I know) with enough accuracy than it is for me to hit anything with a rifle, and since all the zombies can do is bite you, I would rather use the rifle. And your rifle's not going to get stuck in a zombie's body.
imagine if we put a laser beam welder
by troutpencil
Mar 28th, 2008
01:35:20 PM
On the side of a doorway, about average headheight, maybe a couple to cover different heights. We could even set them up with a sort of motion censor device. As stupid as zombies are, they would walk right into that fucking laser every single time. All you'd have to do is set up a slip and slide or something inside the doorway to pull their bodies out of the way, and stand at the ready with a shotgun in case a child zombie or wilt chamberlain zombie showed up. You wouldn't even need a laser to trick goddamn zombies. You could just make a little tunnel and some kind of mechanism, using pistons, ropes and pulleys, whatever, to make a sawblade shoot out in the tunnel at head height every few seconds. Zombies are dumb and would fall for it. These kinds of ideas are easy to come by, and they're not that hard to implement (the laser welder one would be, I guess you'd have to live near an auto factory or something for that one). I think everyone has ideas like this concerning zombies. Everyone has at some point considered what kind of havoc they would reign down on zombies if they ever got the chance, and I am sure many of those people are in the US military. The issue of zombies being pussies has always bothered me, and I think I have become finally interested in checking out this book. I never wanted to read it because of the narrative style, but I'll see if Brooks' can do anything to counter my longheld feelings of disbelief.
last comment sounds like a diary entry
by troutpencil
Mar 28th, 2008
01:36:47 PM
I'm talking to myself.
"...that's all the narrative that the book offered..."
by reverend jack sayer
Mar 31st, 2008
11:30:25 AM
Moriarty, did you even read the book? there's plenty of narrative there, just not in the context of a conventional fictional story. also, JMS wasn't "after the human truth underneath the horror"... MAX BROOKS was. i get the distinct feeling you haven't even cracked it open.
also
by reverend jack sayer
Mar 31st, 2008
11:31:52 AM
yes, the audiobook is great. and i hesitate to agree with the Ken Burns thing. that would be awesome, but this sounds like it could work too. however, i do believe it should be done as a miniseries for HBO rather than a theatrical feature.
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