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Derek Flint compares INDY 4 favorably to WRATH OF KHAN! Plus new trailer in glorious Quicktime HD!

First? by TRON	May 10th, 2008 08:55:37 AM

I always have wanted to do that by TRON	May 10th, 2008 08:55:56 AM

Promising..Khan comparison? WOW by TRON	May 10th, 2008 08:58:24 AM
After two lukewarm reviews, This looks very promising. Hope to see other good reviews
Good to hear by Gd00	May 10th, 2008 09:02:35 AM
And first, maybe?
Well, that makes me feel better by GregoryHarbin	May 10th, 2008 09:04:26 AM
I wasn't born when the last Indy movie came out, and I've been hoping against hope that this one will turn out well. Plant though this may be, a positive review gives me some more hope going into my midnight screening....
This review seems a little defensive/ but informative by g-ride9000	May 10th, 2008 09:09:30 AM
It's nice to read something so even keeled. that one Merrick put up was more one sided and poorly written. Lets say it kids, they obviously hit some "Classic Indy" 3 pointers. The negs on this are paper thin. Ask yourself if you want to like this movie...
thank you by bluebottle	May 10th, 2008 09:09:37 AM
"Unlike Rocky, Indy steps into the ring for combat after the first reel." the whole comparison to rocky balboa was beautifully put.
Iknow its early sat, but I want to see those paper thin hater ar by g-ride9000	May 10th, 2008 09:11:31 AM
what the fuck do I pay the the new ATT for all this band with if nerds sleep in on saturday.
haters, come and get it by g-ride9000	May 10th, 2008 09:13:22 AM
(robot voice) this movie rules, i am a sexy robot, you are a terd burger, g-ride out.
I don't understand... by rbatty024	May 10th, 2008 09:13:34 AM
who can not be excited about this film. I liked the new trailer. I think extending the scenes add just a little more impact.
Top Poster by mvckalel	May 10th, 2008 09:15:43 AM
Wow, that is nice, and that is what WE hope to see...
Finally, a POSITIVE review. by HarryBlackPotter	May 10th, 2008 09:16:53 AM
Sounds like it's gonna do exactly what it says on the tin. Can't wait.
Plant by fiester	May 10th, 2008 09:21:35 AM
Big green leafy plant.
HELL YES!!! by solobear	May 10th, 2008 09:29:06 AM
This reveiw seems a lot more legitimate than the first few, and not just because it's more positive-although I can't help but love THAT!! I think all these naysayers that have been pushing their questionable cinematic "wisdom" in recent days are going to be proven wrong in a big way come May 22. I know I'll be grinning, and so will all the other fans of these magnificent action/adventure masterpieces. GO INDY!!!
Remember when people claimed the Pirates of the Carribean... by rbatty024	May 10th, 2008 09:34:53 AM
trilogy was the new Indiana Jones or new Star Wars. There was also the same talk about The Matrix movies. It's kind of sad that no one has been able to replicate the thrills of the old masters. Both trilogies had terrible second and third installments. There just wasn't enough for more than one film. It'll be nice to have Spielberg back to show the youngsters how it's done.
The Divorce by phaedrus007	May 10th, 2008 09:35:18 AM
Not to get picky, but it was Spielberg that was having the messy divorce.
fiester, no brainer, no plant by g-ride9000	May 10th, 2008 09:35:27 AM
the only thing planted on this page is your sense of entitlement. This review makes real points about plot points, cinematography and acting. There is not one unjustified point in the whole artical. You are also a douch.
Indy is coming by pepino	May 10th, 2008 09:36:03 AM
To show the national treasure generation how its done.
The trailer: by THT3000	May 10th, 2008 09:44:16 AM
The second best from the three.
phaedrus007 by Jay Jay	May 10th, 2008 09:46:11 AM
Spielberg AND Lucas were both going through/had just been through messy divorces at the time.
Basically POTC is this generations Indy. by DerLanghaarige	May 10th, 2008 09:49:14 AM
POTC is a trilogy of great adventure movies with an original, but not too original twist and sequels that are both loved and hated by the same amount of people, while the whole thing is some popcultural phenomenon without being THAT big phenomenon that Star Wars is (But seriously: There will never be something like "The next Star Wars", especially not in this cynical time we live in.). Can't wait for Indy 4!
science fiction elements by kafka07	May 10th, 2008 09:54:02 AM
kind of make sense for the time period the film takes place in, I guess I can buy it now.
by AllieJamison	May 10th, 2008 09:55:43 AM
Interesting. Especially considering the not necessarily Indy-loving place Derek Flint is coming from. I just hope Neill Cumpston already has his tickets.
I guess the check cleared. by Karl Hungus	May 10th, 2008 10:00:02 AM
That read less like a review and more like damage control. Of course, right out of the gate, I can't take it seriously because it implies with a straight face that Last Crusade is better than Temple of Doom. Whoops.
Hey, Planty McPlant... by Merriman Lyon	May 10th, 2008 10:00:02 AM
......At least SEE the movie before you plant a positive review on this site. This 'review' is too vague to be real. The negative reviews had far more detail about specific plot points. And this review isn't even positive. It's defensive - and it's asking us not to give poor old KOTCS a hard time over its obvious failings. After all, the people involved are dear old senior citizens. So that excuses them making such a bad movie? They should have known better than to make it in the first place.
the fact that this reviewer didn't like "temple of doom" ... by Toe Jam	May 10th, 2008 10:04:10 AM
totally negates any stock i put in his critique.
No-one has said anything was great about it yet! by performingmonkey	May 10th, 2008 10:06:19 AM
Every review is either critical or defending it due to the Indy legacy. But what the hell is actually GREAT about this movie??? Not much, it seems. After 20 years people don't want just another installment, one that's worse than Crusade. For all its flaws TPM certainly wasn't that. I commend Lucas for what he did with TPM (not AOTC and ROTS though, which should have been written and directed by others)
“We… are… going… to die!” that was a great line! by BMacSmith	May 10th, 2008 10:10:44 AM
come on!
FUKIN FRIDGE SCENEscotsman75 by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 10:10:48 AM
Please explain FUKIN FRIDGE SCENE
That's it? THAT"S what this movie's about??? by Merriman Lyon	May 10th, 2008 10:12:16 AM
Holy Jesus, I don't believe it. The story's about returning a 'crystal skull' to temple.....? Are you f**king kidding me? THAT'S the mcguffin that Lucas has been holding out for? Holding out FOR TWENTY YEARS? HA HA! Jesus. I've never seen such a lazy, half-hearted trailer. It looks unfinished - edited by people who had better things to do, and who in the end couldn't be bothered. Does ANYONE at Lucasfilm actually care about this franchise? Jesus, they keep using that shot of some kid in an Indy costume swinging off the top of a crate. I thought this movie was about the old Indiana Jones - not Young Indiana Jones. The whole thing's a joke.
I can't wait for ..... by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 10:12:52 AM
little Suburb Shia to start girlie punching some chicks.
LOL!! crop circle spider thing? by peruboy	May 10th, 2008 10:13:16 AM
These are the Lines of Nazca, and aren't alien, my ancestor draw them following constellations to know when harvest.
scotsman75 by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 10:15:41 AM
Just please don't tell me that Indy gets into the spaceship.
Cunt by keanho_in_nyc	May 10th, 2008 10:16:52 AM
Scotsman should be banned like that "Russian dancer" extra was cut from the movie.
One thing i see in the trailers by red_weed	May 10th, 2008 10:17:12 AM
is that Janusz Kaminski still insits on smoking out the frame and making all the light glow and halo. I can deal with it in other films. I think it worked well in war of the worlds the way they blended the effects with that look. But goddamn this is an indy film! none of the others look like that and it's just annoying to me now. I'm over it. It should look crisp, you should see the dirt on their faces. the lights should produce animorphic flares as the pass the edges of the frames! just like the other movies! Is this fogging supposed to show that indy is older? that everything is slightly blurred the indy's old eyes? Oh i dunno. Who with me on this??!?! Anyone? no... ok. forget it. YAY INDY
I liked the way Indy said "WE ARE GOING TO DIE!" by Tacom	May 10th, 2008 10:20:43 AM
I liked how pissed off at Willie Scott and I thought it was supposed to be intentionally funny. Anyway this and Harry Steele's review gives me hope. I was actually hoping from what I've read from spoilers about age and father and son and an old flame that it would be like "Wrath of Kahn" in a good way. Star Trek II is the only Trek movie that's as great as the classic series IMO.
How was Last Crusde received by Jor-El23	May 10th, 2008 10:28:10 AM
Upon it's initial release? I know in 1989, without much of an internet to speak of, there wasn't a forum for nerd backlash. I was 10 when it came out and I loved it, along with the other Indy movies. But I was young. I didn't react the same way to the Prequels. I liked them but they don't mean as much to me as the original trilogy does. That being said, I have young cousins who love the prequels as much as they love the original trilogy. What am I trying to say? You've grown up, you've aged, you've seen a lot of bad knock-off movies and you're jaded. Indy 4 will never be as good as the original 3 were to you.
WE ARE GOING TO DIE by red_weed	May 10th, 2008 10:28:29 AM
is my fav line! what makes it great is the ridiculous look he gives after it and they hold on it just long enough for it to sink in and become hilarious hahahaha. DOOM is my favorite out of the 3. always has been and probably always will be. I still think it has the best set pieces and the best creepy crawlies.
scotsman75 by g-ride9000	May 10th, 2008 10:35:14 AM
WHY ARE YOU YELLING SO MUCH?
This does not sound good... by Hooded Justice	May 10th, 2008 10:38:28 AM
So let's recap: we have four reviews. Two say the movie is awful. One says it's not awful, just mediocre. Great. Now this review apologises for the movie and asks us to give it a chance?? Doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Added to that is another of these strangely boring trailers. What are Lucasfilm playing at? Usually, the best scenes are in the trailer (then you go to the movie and discover that it doesn't live up to the promise of the trailer). That's the point of trailers: to hype the movie up and get you excited. But the Indy 4 trailers are different. Are Lucasfilm DELIBERATELY making dull trailers to lower public expectations? wouldn't be surprised - especially after the Phantom Menace disaster.
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of Plants!!!!!! by ludmir88	May 10th, 2008 10:39:37 AM
no!!!!!!!!!!!
scotsman75 by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 10:40:02 AM
Yeah, please stop yelling.
SOUNDS FUCKING GREAT by kwisatzhaderach	May 10th, 2008 10:44:38 AM
"His long lasting shots without frenetic cutting are particularly enthralling to behold." Yup, the master is back.
I appreciate your contribution, scotsman75, but... by Hooded Justice	May 10th, 2008 10:44:58 AM
Why the capitals? Why no punctuation or complete sentences? Makes it very hard to understand what you're saying.
Merriman Lyon... by solobear	May 10th, 2008 10:45:18 AM
Oh, hoo-Ray! Merriman Lyon is back. And he still has nothing positive or worthwhile to say, as continued predilection for irrelevancy demonstrates. This is gonna be one fun day!
Has any heard of "Tounge and Cheek" by g-ride9000	May 10th, 2008 10:46:20 AM
because that was the entire point of Raiders and the whole thing. A little inside joke that has nostalgic elements at every turn. This jungle serial on steroids was great because its mash-up theme benefited from the modern film techniques and visual effects. Regardless of their plot point choices within the framework, the framework seems to have stayed intact for KOTCS. As far as those plot details, each film has their giant boulders and also their willie scotts. SO STOP HATING AND THINK, HAVE A DISCUSSION. Does this film's choice of plot points work with in the pre-established framework? Do those plot point represent the good taste of the original? LET DISCUSS SOMETHING WORTH WHILE
scotsman75 by kwisatzhaderach	May 10th, 2008 10:47:10 AM
Away and watch Speed Racer and Narnia.
I recently watched the Indy Trilogy in the past few weeks by romanocc	May 10th, 2008 10:47:40 AM
We have to put things in perspective, Raiders is a classic that still holds up today, and TOD & TLC were fun 2-hour rides that hold up pretty well. What makes Indiana Jones iconic......Indiana Jones! I will say it and say it again as to why people didn't love the Prequels, or say movies today that are catered to action and CGI, ITS THE CHARACTERS STUPID!!! When you create an iconic character, you have an affection for that person on screen, and you will atleast enjoy it, whether it is great or good. People had problems with the PT cause they didn't care about Padme & Anakin, and in some ways Kenobi, and if you put Luke, Leia, and Han in those same situations, we may still not love it, but we will atleast care! Indiana Jones is just cool, he is the John Wayne/Steve McQueen/Humphrey Bogart of action films, and that is why people will enjoy this film. John McClaine, John Rambo, Rocky Balboa are all able to have sequels after the fact because they are great characters. I don't think Indy IV will be a cinematic classic, but if you enjoy the series, how can you hate the film?
Hooded Justice... by jones1899	May 10th, 2008 10:48:23 AM
Um the first two reviews looked fake. The third was very positive and this one is even more so positive. By my count thats 2-0. Positive reviews win.
indy throws a football over those mountains by LarryTheCableGuy	May 10th, 2008 10:49:20 AM
scotsman75 nothing u are saying hasn't already been said
Walk out....? by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 10:51:38 AM
Just like I expected to see people walk out when they head plastic heads metling/exploding in raiders?
by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 10:52:37 AM
Just like I expected to see people walk out when they had plastic heads melting/exploding in raiders?
scotsman75 saw the Topps cards by FlyingToupee	May 10th, 2008 10:53:19 AM
He didn't see the movie. This review sounds promising.
That's too bad. by neverhed	May 10th, 2008 10:53:32 AM
I was really harboring hope for this movie, despite Shia LeDouche. With everything more I see.. that hope dwindles more and more. That trailer makes INDY 4 look like about as much fun as LAWRENCE WELK.
oh, no -- aliens! by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 10:53:47 AM
Definitely not as believable as ghosts flying out of the arc. No way, no how.
i like this review by El Borak	May 10th, 2008 10:54:05 AM
it seems like he gets it and isn't too serious about it at the same time.
scotsman75 by g-ride9000	May 10th, 2008 10:56:05 AM
(robot voice)U R A ROBOT CUNT>>>YOU USE OIL FOR ROBOT LUBE>>>YOUR GIRLFRIEND IS A MALFUNCTIONING NORTON COMMANDO 850. ADIOS TURD NUGGETS!!!!!!!
give me a break, guys... by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 10:56:06 AM
lucas was right -- people expect this to be the second coming. objectively, it probably fits right alongside the rest of the films in terms of action/quality. spielberg did this by design. and, had he not, ya'll would still be complaining. the foregoing notwithstanding, the majority of the movie-going public will completely dig this movie, as this site makes up a .000001% fraction of same.
scotsman75 by The Dubliner	May 10th, 2008 10:56:36 AM
YOU'RE A FUCKING ASSHOLE!
Stopped reading at... by yesiamaplant	May 10th, 2008 10:57:52 AM
..."Harrison Ford’s line reading of “We… are… going… to die!” still makes me cringe." Clearly this person has no sense of humor or comedic timing, and sees these films as background noise while he's attempting to read Faulkner or something. I could care less about his opinion on the matter, positive or not.
ALSO -- indy v. dark knight..... by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 10:59:20 AM
There is no competition here. The two films come out nearly TWO months apart, they appeal to different demographics, and they aren't in the same genre. They're both "hero" films, but you can't for one second tell me batman is anything akin to indy. If anything, Indy's main competition is the MUMMY 3. Puh-lease.
Jones... by Hooded Justice	May 10th, 2008 10:59:32 AM
No, the first two reviews are only 'fake' to people who don't like what they say. They are detailed and balanced in tone - and do not show any particular agenda. They are pretty unremarkable, actually. They have been 'called into question' by people who DO have an agenda: fanboys. If those reviews were for any other movie, no one would doubt them for a second. Review no.3 says it's better than the mediocre Last Crusade - but NOT AS GOOD as the equally-mediocre Temple Of Doom. That's not a recommendation to a lot of fans who - like me - think the sequels were very inferior to the original Raiders. I remember that even Spielberg officially apologised for Temple Of Doom in the years following its release. This reviewer compares KOTCS to Wrath of Kahn (a pretty good movie) only in terms of some plot similarities. He does NOT compare it in terms of quality. His overall tone is more one of apology - not of recommendation. And frankly, if I were to question the authenticity of any of these reviews, it would be this one: it's very, very light on specific details.
hey scotsman by El Borak	May 10th, 2008 10:59:52 AM
suck a turd dick-less wonder. let me know when your indy movie comes out testicle tumor.
SK229 by g-ride9000	May 10th, 2008 11:01:57 AM
well put, you are a film scholar among dipshit Scotsmen. cameron seems to have that one down, and sometimes de palma. I feel like Ridley had it, then lost it, but now kinda regained that control a little...Your thoughts on these guys....
But is it true.... by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 11:02:59 AM
that Suburb Shia actually holds his own alongside Ford? I find that hard to believe.
Hooded Justice by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 11:03:39 AM
Those negative reviews were written by film geeks -- agree or disagree? If they posted on this site, they aren't representative of the average filmgoer, nor are they representative of the average critic. Yes?
Wow, that was like, well written by Jaka	May 10th, 2008 11:07:29 AM
And well thought out, everything in the right place. This is actually the first Indy review I've read, and probably the last. This one was nice and level, answered a few questions, gave away a few small bits, but didn't go too far to either side of praise or bashing. Like everyone else, I have my own expectations, and I'd rather go in feeling level, or even positive, than looking out for the negative things I might have read.
Point is.... by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 11:08:45 AM
everything that lucas said would happen IS happening. It's almost comical. if raiders came out today, for the first time, I'm sure the people on this site would rip it apart. "the sets look fake," "the arc attacking scene looks corny," "the action's too slow." give me a break. And what's with all of the speed racer love on this site? the critical consensus is that Speed Racer is a cinematic abomination. Yet this site bashes indy? One of the reasons I'm guess this site exists? Huh? And Sarah Marshall is AWESOME? HUH!? I bet if that hill dude from superbad was in shia's role, this reviewers on this site would be lovin' it up.
Is there an atom bomb going off in one part? by HarryBlackPotter	May 10th, 2008 11:09:20 AM
Just need to know what goes down in Area 51.
flying over the aztec spider by LarryTheCableGuy	May 10th, 2008 11:09:48 AM
thats awesome. i love me some eric von doniken truth bombs. alien mythology belongs in indiana jones as much as jesus, moses, atlantis and the indian religion thing. i cant wait, if i was 10 i would love this without any bullshit knickpicking, but i wouldn't be about the movie bneing boring or sow at any points caue you know it's not gonna be that way, any talky scenes are there to move the plot forward.
er, jarjarjockstrap... by Hooded Justice	May 10th, 2008 11:10:21 AM
'Film geeks' are human beings too. There's nothing about any of these four reviews that suggests they weren't written by reasonably intelligent, articulate adults. Their opinions are valid, just like yours or mine.
seth rogan as indy!!!! by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 11:10:39 AM
if that had gone down, this site would have been on cloud 9, no doubt.
jarjarsjockstrap by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 11:12:04 AM
That's because nobody here gives a shit about Speed Racer but we do give a shit about Indy. We just don't want to see Lucas and company sodomize the series like we all know he's capable of.
someone ban this cock by El Borak	May 10th, 2008 11:12:06 AM
pretty please?
I saw this movie... by TopHat	May 10th, 2008 11:12:34 AM
...and its horrible. If you don't think Lucas is a hack after this AND the prequels, then you're either delusional or in denial. Everything you'd think is going to be revealed and happen, does. This is a typical Lucas/Spielberg "for the fans" cop-out. Now, the most interesting part of all of this is the excuses fans will make up to defend it. I think Harry and Quint's introductions to these reviews pretty much scream "I'm giving this movie a positive review no matter what!". It'll be fascinating to hear Moriarty's take. But, it'll probably be much of the same "Is it prefect? No. But, damned if I didn't have a great time!" I'm sure we won't be able to count on a comparison of the movie with Frank Darabot's script; that will show the obvious kinks in Lucas' armor. Even though Moriarty is supposedly friends with Darabot, and is already in Lucasfilm's bad graces. Yep, this'll be a typical "If you don't like this movie, then you don't GET movies" senario that's become all too familiar for AICN these past years. Its as if the fanboy community has given up on blockbusters being fun AND extremely well-made like they used to. Just include some throw-backs and homages to those movies, make it "fun", and you'll get a favorable review. I mean, X-MEN 3, TRANSFORMERS, FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER, getting good reviews? Really? Fandom made excuses for the SW prequels the same blindly way that born-again Christians make excuses for the Bush adminstration. I for one, do NOT want to settle for "well, its fun" or "at least it took the source material seriously". I want the same great movies I grew up with. And I don't mean the same FEELINGS I got watching them. I want them just as well-made and original. But, how is that going to happen if we keep giving working film-makers today free passes? Especially the same film-makers who MADE these great movies of yesteryear? Zemekis, ANOTHER Christmas Carol? Really? Cameron, a story about a guy who goes to a planet with giant cats, ala WIZARD OF OZ? Really? Lucas, a clone wars animated feature AND live-action SW TV show? Really? Spielberg, ANOTHER Indian Jones movie where he's old and you have to pair him up with his long-lost son and Marion? Really? Miller, HAPPY-FUCKING-FEET?? And, what do we have in the "up-and-coming" department of blockbuster movie makers? Stephen Summers? Tim Story? The guy from SWINGERS? The guy from THE LAST SEDUCTION. WILLAIM-FUCKING-RIKER from the Next Generation?? Yes, IRON MAN was okay, but, does it really compare to the movies we all grew up with? And again, not in FEELING. Not in HOMAGE. And yes, there's Nolan and Singer (even though he managed to make Superman boring) but, even their movies, that I've seen (haven't see Dark Knight yet), don't compare. They're like very precise intellectual exercises, where they make sure to cover all the rules of screenwriting that Terry Rosiaro has come up with in his Wordplay columns. Which is what Kasdan and all the other great writers and film-makers from the past did as well, but, their films never FELT as if some screenwriter was tacking up index cards on a bulletin board while you watched them. Where's the magic? Do you really think 3-D will save us? Do we really need an IMAX screen to get back to what we all grew up with? I don't think so. I believe a better and less costly way is to criticise these movies that come out now when they don't deliver. No more free passes for "just okay" or "it was fun". Time to get back to work. Break time's over.
Hooded justice... by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 11:13:29 AM
I agree. I'm just saying they're not representative of the average filmgoer. And, of course, I value their opinions. And, of course, I think they'll see this movie in droves -- even if they think it sucks. Same thing happened with the prequels. They're still film fans, at the end of the day.
It Belongs in a Museum! by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 11:13:53 AM
All I want to know is, what happens with the ark?
Scottsman 75 by Evil_Imp	May 10th, 2008 11:17:30 AM
Go fuck yourself already! nobody wants to read your childish CAPITALIZED rants every other post ok? you clearly have or border on a mental instability to be so worked up over a movie you still have yet to see. Somewhere in your ypbringing someone never taught you haw to temper your disapointment i guess, cause ranting like you are on an internet talk board about a movie that you have predetermined to hate and tear down without any first hand knowledge reeks of a mental problem.
excuse my spelling errors... by Evil_Imp	May 10th, 2008 11:18:44 AM
But the point still stands
THE ARK by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 11:19:05 AM
So what happens to it?
I Was at the Same Screenin As scottsman 75 by SantosLHalper	May 10th, 2008 11:20:01 AM
the ufo at the end fucking rocked. scottsman was to busy getting his diaper changed by his dad to understand the significance of what happens at the end.
SK229 is correct by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 11:22:03 AM
It IS about the character, and that, too, was my only concern about the film. But, Ford looks like he's up to the task, and the trailers indicate just that. I can't believe the people on this site wanted someone else cast as Indy. FORD IS INDY. Indy lives with ford and dies with ford -- PERIOD. The reason the character is so awesome is because FORD made him awesome. Many others have tried to play indy (frazier in the mummy, hairless cage in national treasure, jolly in tomb raider, matthew magagsneyey in sahara, etc, etc, etc), and they all failed miserably. MISERABLY. No one is indy BUT ford. Hell, the reason the PREQEULS sucked was because they lacked a Han-solo type of character. They lacked Ford. When ford is on -- he's on.
We are going to die line makes your cringe? by gwarwilleatyou	May 10th, 2008 11:22:17 AM
I'm sorry that line is awesome. That is all
I have no problem with someone disliking this movie by Evil_Imp	May 10th, 2008 11:22:52 AM
I have a problem with 20 + posts in CAPS just spewing out hate and Venom with no intelligent discussion or ctiticism behind it . I doubt Scotsman even tried or wanted to like this movie....just a hunch.
Scotsman75 - Cheers, mate. Sound amazing. by HarryBlackPotter	May 10th, 2008 11:23:08 AM
Seriously, I know you're just pissing on it because you've swallowed too much cum and it's warped your brain, but this sounds fucking tops. Great work cock muncher!
"we.. are.. going to die" was awesome by LarryTheCableGuy	May 10th, 2008 11:27:23 AM
but "yea, ALL of us" was my favorte delivered line
Regardless, I'm there. by Grendel745	May 10th, 2008 11:28:59 AM
You'd think Ford and company was coming to your house and lighting a turn on fire on your front step. All I'm asking for is to be entertained for a while for my $10, which I know Indy will do. Raiders, Temple of Doom and Last Crusade did that back in the day and in a few weeks Crystal Skull will carry forth that legacy. The Indy movies are not some cinematic holy grail (and neither are the original Star Wars films), despite my deep and abiding love for them (and the original trilogy). Its a frakking movie. There are many, many things Hollywood does that will work me into a angry frenzy (talk of remaking Casablanca being #1 on the list) but releasing a new Indiana Jones movie isn't one of them. I know that when I go opening weekend with my two older sons (ages 9 and 12) that we're going to be thoroughly entertained which is the entire reason I watch movies.
It Belongs in a Museum! by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 11:29:04 AM
Has anyone ever noticed that Indy never got to keep any of the treasures he was looking for except the cross thing at the beginning of Crusade? Does he finally get to keep a treasure in IJ4?
Regarding those seventies directors... by rbatty024	May 10th, 2008 11:29:52 AM
I think Spielberg is one of the few who hasn't lost his touch. Catch Me if You can is an absolute classic and I also enjoyed Minority Report despite Tom Cruise. Even when he has a miss, like Terminal, at least it's an interesting movie. He's not afraid of moving away from his comfort zone. I love how he says he made the new Indy movie basically because it would be fun. Hopefully that attitude translates into the final product.
I am so looking forward to this flick... by Mistahtibbs	May 10th, 2008 11:30:05 AM
...and everyone of you nay-saying, "PLANT!"-shouting, failure-cheering, parent's basement-dwelling, overweight, cheetos-scarfing, self-abusing, bearded, goateed...........um, where was I? Oh yeah. FUCK YOU! cunts. With all my venom. MT
SCOTSMAN........ by Evil_Imp	May 10th, 2008 11:30:47 AM
SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP , MATE
meesa called mutt williams meesa your humble servant by LarryTheCableGuy	May 10th, 2008 11:34:21 AM
"that won't be neccesary"
Hey Scotty.. by solobear	May 10th, 2008 11:36:37 AM
Why don't you pack up your foul-mouthed ramblings and head to your room. I think your time would be better spent playing with toy phasers in your make-believe engine room. Leave these talkbacks to people who actually give a damn.
Will someone please shoot Scotsman75! by alucardvsdracula	May 10th, 2008 11:37:08 AM
What a total and utter prick.
solobear by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 11:38:24 AM
Though I do find it funny that he hasn't ripped Shia apart. Could it be true that he actually did a good job in this movie?
Apologies for my language... by Mistahtibbs	May 10th, 2008 11:39:22 AM
Seriously. Sorry about that. No excuses. Just apologies but the sentiment remains the same. MT
CLoVERFIELD MONSTER!!!!!!! by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 11:39:36 AM
I hear the cloverfield monster makes a cameo in this movie, and then gizmo fights in him Mortal Kombat!
Give it a chance... by solobear	May 10th, 2008 11:40:00 AM
Let's give Shia, and everykne else in this film and behind the scenes of this film the chance. I'm betting they made a movie that we'll enjoy and that they will be proud of.
RE: It Belongs in a Museum! by Mission Code Z	May 10th, 2008 11:40:20 AM
Wouldn't it be cool, and fitting, if the series ends with the fertility idol back in Indy's hands...just the way it all started, from our vantage point? : )
I noticed something by Megamonki	May 10th, 2008 11:44:15 AM
all the bad reviews seem to "nitpick" and involve their personal feelings while the good ones use context and detail.... just a thought
that trailer is WAAAAY better by Lloyd Bonafide the Korean War Veteran	May 10th, 2008 11:45:16 AM
than the others.
maybe its the music is more peppy by Lloyd Bonafide the Korean War Veteran	May 10th, 2008 11:47:05 AM

THE TRUTH... by solobear	May 10th, 2008 11:47:06 AM
Megamonki has just put forth what many of us have been thinking since these INDY 4 reviews and talkbacks started. He hits the nail on the head. Why do these people feel the need to tear this film to pieces when it isn't even out yet? I do not lend any credence whatsoever to any of the negative bullshit these fanboy wannabes are putting forth.
Mission Code Z by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 11:48:02 AM
That's exactly what I thought.
LINES OF NAZCA by peruboy	May 10th, 2008 11:49:08 AM
I think this is the first time they appear in a movie, It's a shame Maria Reich is not alive to see it. Probably she would said "For God's sake it's not alien!!" lol
HERB WEST by solobear	May 10th, 2008 11:53:40 AM
Hey, Herb, if you're still out there, I have a question for you. How long have you been a voice of reason on these talkbacks?
solobear by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 11:54:54 AM
I try my best, but it's hard sometimes. :)
I Hear Ya! by solobear	May 10th, 2008 11:58:36 AM
Y'know, it's hard to be civil and try to have an intelligent conversation when you're surrounded by all this unfounded negativity. The crap that some of these numbskulls resort to saying is not intelligent or amusing. Why do they waste their time? I Do enjoy talking with others about film, even when their opinions don't mesh with mine, but that's half the fun of it. But this other stuff goes way far around the bend.
IRON MONGER by solobear	May 10th, 2008 12:01:20 PM

Scotsman... by solobear	May 10th, 2008 12:06:06 PM
Well...you just have some clever witicism to offer up on just about everything, don't you. Why don't you go crawl back inside a case of Lucky Charms you useless fuck, and leave the rest of us alone. You're little more than a hemorhoid. Tell me this, Scotty, is it even remotely possible that you might have something useful or halfway intelligent to say?
At least we've risen above .... by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 12:06:52 PM
the Shia hate. That's good, I guess.
Jeff Bridges by solobear	May 10th, 2008 12:07:46 PM
I thought that Jeff Bridges was great as the villain. He, and the rest of the cast of IRON MAN were excellent. That flick was one helluva great way to kick off the summer movie season.
Herb... by solobear	May 10th, 2008 12:10:43 PM
Have you seen SPEED RACER yet?
You're little more than a hemorhoid by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 12:11:07 PM
Ha. Or like my Grandaddy used to say. He's like a carbuncle in the crack of a man's ass.
shia is amazing by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 12:12:05 PM
even stevens for heisman.
solobear by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 12:13:44 PM
No I haven't. I really haven't even watched a trailer for it yet. Though if I find it floating around online somewhere it may become mine. Just kidding of course.
scotsman75!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 12:13:57 PM
Dude, when are we gonna play POGS? I've been waiting 15 years for our epic re-match.
Who gives a damn? by solobear	May 10th, 2008 12:15:03 PM
I really don't give a rat's left testicle where Lucky Charms comes from, dickhead. You're the one who needs to get his facts straight-everything you have have been putting out here for the masses is nothing but venom-filled, hate-laced garbage. If you'd like to join in and have a pleasant conversation, terrific. Otherwise, shut your stinking pie-hole. You're not funny, just sad. Go play bully somewhere else.
scotsman75 is the king of kings... by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 12:15:05 PM
and the bravest soul I've ever known. we used to roll together is east r'dale. word, scots. 4 lyfe.
SOLOBEAR!!!...shut up by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 12:17:13 PM
Dude, leave scots alone. Me and him are boys, fo shiz, and I don't like you smack talking him. In high school, Scots was the MC in Cabaret, and he was AMAZING.
Insults by solobear	May 10th, 2008 12:18:54 PM
Hey, punk, I'm not insulting Irish folks or Scottish folks-just you. But it doesn't seem to bother you that you spend a vast majority of your time here insulting everyone else. Your brainless ramblings get old MIGHTY quickly. Oh, and the fact that you are able to ype in capital letters doen't impress anyone, either.
scotsman75 and me in high school... by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 12:19:14 PM
Dude, remember jc? What's he been up to?
scotsman75, I love you. by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 12:20:43 PM
There -- I said it.
Enough by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 12:20:48 PM
So what happens to the Ark?
telemarketer, the winner would be... by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 12:21:53 PM
Sebulba. That dude's got the juice, now, grandma.
The Ark by solobear	May 10th, 2008 12:22:24 PM
It sounds like you get to see the Ark, or at least the crate containing it, for a moment, but nothing more. Maybe Indy will get to make some crack about it. I'm smiling just thinking about it.
"we are going to die" is a great fucking line by darwinmayflower	May 10th, 2008 12:23:18 PM
don't fuck with the temple of doom!
Sebulba... by solobear	May 10th, 2008 12:24:28 PM
Funny you should mention that. I'm listening to the EPISODE I sscore as we talkback, and the piece of music playing at this very moment is the Flag Parade piece. Nothing beats some good John Williams orchestral goodness. Nw, if that darn INDY 4 score would just come out...
That's what I was afraid of... by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 12:25:17 PM
Did they really stage that whole warehouse part just so we could get a glimpse of the ark and that's it? That's a rip off. I really hoped Indy would be able to keep something for once.
Scotsman... by solobear	May 10th, 2008 12:26:22 PM
If I have insulted you, then I beg your forgiveness. But I do find that much of your acid-toned comments are negatively provocative, to say the least. Tell me, ar eyou the fellow who said he just got a copy of the film earlier?
Herb... by solobear	May 10th, 2008 12:27:40 PM
I agree, Herb. Maybe this time he'll get to keep Marion. Just think, that might give Indy the oncentive to go looking for that Fertility Idol again...
Iron Monger by solobear	May 10th, 2008 12:29:21 PM
Of course he couldn't, Telemarketer. That is, unless he gets his hands on one of them big ass TRANSFORMER robots. Then old Iron Monger would be turned into tin foil pretty damn quick!
telemarketer, Sebulba would still win!!!! Even if Uwe Bol joined by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 12:30:05 PM
Sebulba and Watto are the greatest CGI creations in cinema history. With Watto playing "Mickey" to Sebulba's "Rocky," Mutt, Iron Monger, Jessica Alba, AND Uwe Bol would all be royally screwed. When Sebulba rolls up 'longside ya and flashes his grill -- it's game over.
scotsman75 by DirkD13"	May 10th, 2008 12:30:43 PM
Think about it dude, the end of Raiders had vengeance seeking angels that melted faces, exploderised heads and sent fire through peoples stomachs. The end of Crusade had an immortal Knight and death by instant aging. Why should aliens and saucers be a problem? I would certainly find aliens alot easier to believe in than anything remotely biblical, I don't understand your (la)beef. These are not exactly Ken Loach films, ya dig?
Spamster, you moron... by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 12:32:17 PM
He's replacing them with Snorks!
DirkD13"... by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 12:34:01 PM
That's what I've been saying. You, sir, are the man.
SCORE!!! by solobear	May 10th, 2008 12:35:32 PM
Chalk one oup for the Telemarketer! The Hemorhoid-sorry-Scotsman has taken another one on the chin!
go looking for that Fertility Idol again... by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 12:37:01 PM
That made me laugh. Most people probably don't remember but Marion girl used to have a sweet little ass. http://tinyurl.com/5f9hvr Wonder if she still does.
And A Good Night To You, Telemarketer... by solobear	May 10th, 2008 12:37:43 PM
Sweet dreams, TM, and may your dreams be as exciting as an INDIANA JONES adventure. Hell, maybe Mutt will be along for the ride!
I get the feeling by Christopher3	May 10th, 2008 12:38:42 PM
That Scotsman is really a Scotsboy.
What? by solobear	May 10th, 2008 12:38:48 PM
Scotsman, I'm shocked. Your mommy actually lets you drink alcohol? Maybe that's what has killed all of your brain cells.
I Get The Feeling-Part II by solobear	May 10th, 2008 12:40:03 PM
That the Scotsman is really a Scotsgirl.
scots by DirkD13"	May 10th, 2008 12:40:43 PM
Hey man, opinions are like assholes you know? Everyone's got one and none are less valid. Aliens are cool with me, but if many of the lines are duds, well that's a different matter. Anways, I'm still there Sat 24th. jarjarsjockstrap; you sir, are a gentleman.
Alcohol... by solobear	May 10th, 2008 12:41:24 PM
Is the Guinness what is fueling all of your creativity? Ahhh, so sad...
Eat shit, crybabies! Go die Hobbit lickers! by Yelnick McWaWa	May 10th, 2008 12:42:04 PM
You negative cunts never fail to amuse me. You hate everything but those cock-sucking hobbits. Kevin Smith was right, an entire trilogy dedicated to walking. FUCK LOTR right up it's tired old ass! Indy will be a welcomed return! It will be great to see adults in movies again instead of these pussy, liberal, mealy-mouthed, hand-wringing twats who wouldn't know what hero meant was it was tattooed on their taint. You Prequel bashers can eat some fuck as well as the Star Wars flicks are just fine for the TRUE fans and those that paid attention. If you hate those films you were never that big a fan to begin with, that's the fucking truth! Indy will be the highest grosser this year, although Dark Knight gives some competition due to it being Ledger's final film, so it could be horserace with the two. And fuck Speed Racer as well, a phony movie for a phony affliction like HDD. Shitty cartoon = shittier movie, makes sense. As for the bashers, you can kiss my hairy yellow ass!
OK, Lay off of Scotsman now.... by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 12:47:44 PM
You can take away his Star Wars action figures and Legos, BUT YOU'LL NEVER TAKE HIS FREEEEEDOM!!!!!
Yelnick... by solobear	May 10th, 2008 12:48:19 PM
I agree with you man-on most accounts anyway, and perhaps not as vociferously. I dig all six STAR WARS films, the INY films, and I'm sick of prelease film-bashing by people who haven't seen it. BUT...I also liked the LORD OF THE RINGS films, I'm going to see SPEED RACER with an open mind, and I don't particularly care for Kevin Smith or his films. But, I think that we're on the same page, bud!
Herb... by solobear	May 10th, 2008 12:50:23 PM
I agree with ya Herb. I think I will ignore him. I tried to say sorry, but the guy-or girl-just threw it back in my face. Life goes on. I'm gonna see INDY and that's all that matters!!!
I've read all of scotsman's post... by hollywoodsummers	May 10th, 2008 12:53:02 PM
and I don't think he's actually seen the film. He certainly has an inside source because he is right about certain plot points, but they are a bit out of order and leave's out a few other details. He's either been told things by someone who's seen it or worked on it, or seen pieces somehow... maybe at a trailer house.
rock on Indy, rock on by aboriginal	May 10th, 2008 12:56:02 PM
f'n a-man this is gonna be good - and screw all the haters.
I know one thing.... by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 12:56:26 PM
Indy would single handedly whoop every member of the Gates family from National Treasure. Including the little sidekick geek.
I have a feeling by Megamonki	May 10th, 2008 01:11:18 PM
like temple of doom this one will divide the critics but in a year or so it will be considered a classic along with the others (like temple of doom)
Carol/Marion by g0dai	May 10th, 2008 01:14:02 PM
I think the comparison only survives until you consider the impact of Marion's reappearance being exponentially more meaningful. She appeared in a previous movie whereas Carol Marcus was essentially retconned in for plot reasons... Hearing that they underutilized Karen Allen is a major disaappointment. Maybe John Hurt's appearance will help offset that, but I've barely heard a peep about that!
and another thing by Megamonki	May 10th, 2008 01:15:01 PM
this I disagree on Indy's "we are going to die!" line is my favorite in the whole series Ford's delivery and the face he makes afterward make laugh everytime
Let the dick sucking begin. Oh it already has. by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	May 10th, 2008 01:19:55 PM
One good review and some of you are ready to totally fellatiate this guy. I'll stick with my gut based on the trailer, other reviews and comments from those involved in the film from various interviews that this movie sucks donkey dick. Those of you with your head in the sand who have HUGE expectations for this movie don't forget to swallow as no one likes a spitter.
scotsman75 - HAHAHAHA!!! by Mako	May 10th, 2008 01:21:49 PM
What a waste of a life. If there's anything positive about you spending so much time yelling on this board... it's that you're not out in the real world. We all thank you for that!!
That Die Hard 4 comment Derek made is retarded by TheMcflyFarm	May 10th, 2008 01:24:35 PM
Yes a helicopter exploded and an occupant jumped out to land safely. BUT THE PILOT STILL GOT BURNED TO DEATH AND THE GUY WHO LANDED GOT CRUSHED TO BLOODY PIECES IN AN ICE GRINDER! YOU FUCKING STUPID RETARD ASSHOLE MORON FUCKFACE IDIOT! I'm so sick of the bullshit excuses people make for not liking the best movie of last summer, asshole fuckface retards!
Carol Marcus by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 01:32:02 PM
What was the history of Carol Marcus. Was she a character from the original Star Trek show?
I'm watching Last Crusade right now by vadakinX	May 10th, 2008 01:47:09 PM
It's on TV and has just reached the three tests...I've gotta say, it's no Raiders, but it's still a damn fun movie. If Indy IV is even close to Last Crusade or Temple of Doom, it will be worth it.
WORTH IT by solobear	May 10th, 2008 01:53:00 PM
I have no doubt that this is going to be a good movie. Face it, Steven Spielberg doesn't make bad movies. Even things like 1941 and THE COLOR PURPLE (I like the first, not the second) have some redeeming qualities. All of Spielberg's films are well-made. Of course, some are better than others, but that's the case with anyone who directs more than one film. But it's going to take a helluva lot more than screaming juvenile rants to give up on this film. I'll see it for myself and form my own opinion then, thank you very much.
Carol Marcus by solobear	May 10th, 2008 01:57:08 PM
No she was brought in for TREK II. In my opinion, she was there to try and humanize Kirk a bit. Let's face it. At that point in the TREK saga (1982) Shatner was a bit long in the tooth to be believably bedding down with every 19-year-old Playboy figured space damsel that he came across, as he seemed to do in the original series. Carol Marcus she made Kirk's mid-life crisis sub-plot a bit easier to bite into. But it was one movie and done for Ms. Marcus.
Carol Marcus part II by solobear	May 10th, 2008 01:59:40 PM
Carol Marcus and Kirk's son was in both TREK II and III, but he was a bit of a wasted character, especially in TREK III where he was so conveniently killed off by the Klingons in front of Saavik and the young/reborn Spock. Boy, did THAT piss old Kirk off!
KIRK AND SON by solobear	May 10th, 2008 02:00:38 PM
KLINGON BASTARDS, YOU MURDERED MY SON!!!
mcflyfarm by kolchak	May 10th, 2008 02:02:15 PM
Die Hard 4 was a sellout piece of shit. Everyone involved should be ashamed.
Speaking of sons... by solobear	May 10th, 2008 02:02:22 PM
Hopefully Mutt Williams won't get blasted into oblivion by Klingons!
DIE HARD 4 by solobear	May 10th, 2008 02:03:37 PM
I wish that LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD had had more of an edge to it, but I still got a big kick out of seeing McClane back in action again.
Maybe you can't go home again... by solobear	May 10th, 2008 02:07:12 PM
but that doesn't mean that all of these revival films-INDY 4, DIE HARD 4, ROCKY BALBOA, RAMBO-aren't still a kick to watch. They may not be as fresh as the originals, but I'd didn't expect that they would be.
William Hurt??? by solobear	May 10th, 2008 02:09:06 PM
You mean John (chestburster) Hurt, right?
William Hurt by solobear	May 10th, 2008 02:10:19 PM
If he were William Hurt's stepson, wouldn't he be lost in space, or trapped in an isolation tank or something?
Solobear & Scotsman75 by Alex Trevelyan	May 10th, 2008 02:14:25 PM
I've been reading your posts and they're both hilarious. keep at it. PS Die Hard 4 was crap.
HAPPY TO OBLIGE!!! by solobear	May 10th, 2008 02:16:01 PM
My pleasure. There ain't nothing better to do on a rainy afternoon, after all. Oh, wait a second, I could be watching a movie!!! Damn, why didn't I think of that earlier.
John Hurt by solobear	May 10th, 2008 02:17:22 PM
Does Indy and his posse find him in one of those cells we catch a brief glimpse of in the trailer? He certainly looks like he hasn'r bathed in a year.
Telemarketer you're funny too.. by Alex Trevelyan	May 10th, 2008 02:18:27 PM
Mutt Williams Vs. Robocop. Who would win?
Here's a question a little off the subject... by solobear	May 10th, 2008 02:19:47 PM
Does anyone know if the INDY 4 score has been posted anywhere yet. I heard brief pieces of each of the cuts from the CD on Amazon.com, but I want more!!!!
scotsman is wrong by hollywoodsummers	May 10th, 2008 02:25:30 PM
Hurt is in the film longer than 6 or 7 min... he's in it almost as much as Karen Allen. And Mutt is not his stepson... that would mean he and Marion were married and they are not. This guy has bits of info he's trying to piece together and say he's seen it.
I'm calling B.S. on scotsman by hollywoodsummers	May 10th, 2008 02:26:38 PM
Sorry mate.
hey scotsman by t40stunt	May 10th, 2008 02:29:12 PM
why don't you shut the fuck up you little punk . seriously i'd love to run into your little bicth ass on the street so i could slap the fuck outta you . a punch would probably kill your frail ass . you sit hear trying to ruin shit for folks that just want to talk about their hopes for the movie . a lot people put in hard work to make this flick happen and then some douche ( YOU ) gotta try and fuck it up . Please , Please tell me you live in the l.a. area so i can put a uwe boll on you
The Legitimacy of the Scotsman by solobear	May 10th, 2008 02:29:48 PM
I think Scotsman said earlier that he had a copy of the film. I asked about this and got no response. Not to point the finger at him, but a lot of what I've been reading (i.e. the reviews) seem a little lacking in detail. I haven't seen the film, but each day I see something slip out that helps me paint a bigger and more complete picture of what the INDY 4 story is. I enjoy reading this stuff, but until I see the film, I'm going to be taking it all with a grain of salt.
be waiting for by t40stunt	May 10th, 2008 02:30:10 PM
your witty counter .
Lay off the Scotsman Stuntcock by Alex Trevelyan	May 10th, 2008 02:32:47 PM
Leave Scotsman75 be. Why the hating? He's hilarious. He's bring out the worst in you all and its very funny stuff to read. keep going Scotty. I'll back you up 100%
LENO by solobear	May 10th, 2008 02:33:00 PM
Last night I caught Harrison Ford on Jay Leno. I was a litle ticked off that they showed no clip from the film. Leno and Ford batted about the fact that the film is "veiled in secrecy." What we got to see was the clip of Ford getting slimed at the Kid's CHoice Awards, and his environmentalist spot about the rain forests being chopped down. That let us see Mr. Ford getting his chest waxed. HO HUM!!! I wanted a clip, goddamn it!!!
This douche just told us... by poeticwarriorII	May 10th, 2008 02:33:29 PM
GL's excuse was comendable. That a movie that is anticipated this much can never live up to the expectation. He had the fucking audacity to sit there and shit in our collective pockets and tell us it's hailing. What GL was really saying was I know I'm out of touch with reality and I made this movie 15 years too late because now I'm really incredibly bad at making movies because I'm surrounded by people that refuse to tell me no so everything I touch turns to shit and I let Speilberg cast some kid with a jew fro that nobody likes as Indy's bastard son thereby making IJ a deadbeat fucking dad. Get the fuck outta here with that shit.
stuntcock huh ? by t40stunt	May 10th, 2008 02:35:32 PM
wow thanks for the compliment .don't swing that way but hey . listen not hating just want to enjoy the tb without having to sort through all the b.s. but if you want to join sides then fuck you to chief .
Solobear by _SnakePlissken_	May 10th, 2008 02:37:21 PM
you silly scepo bastard, "Lucky Charms" come on mate you just gave that dirty scotsman more ammo and excuse to spew more of his verbal diarrhea all over this talk back, and like we didn't have enough anyway, the cunt has posted 49 posts of meaningless dribble. But in true yank form you got your countries mixed up.. you'll get him next time. Haggis eating bastard
Sorry T40Stunt... by Alex Trevelyan	May 10th, 2008 02:38:44 PM
I misread you name and called you StuntCock. My bad. poeticWarrior-interesting observations. GL is some producer of shit. Remarkably tasteless man. What direction would you have taken the film?
INDY/TREK by solobear	May 10th, 2008 02:38:48 PM
WRATH OF KHAN still holds up as one of the two top TREK films-the other is, in my humble opinion, FIRST CONTACT. I got the feeling that the comparison has to do with the Older Indy-Older Kirk thing. The one thing that I think Indy 4 will lack is a villain that is as powerful as Khan.
mccain wasnt back in action by LarryTheCableGuy	May 10th, 2008 02:38:55 PM
bruce willis was. die hard 4 was lame.
douche by t40stunt	May 10th, 2008 02:40:16 PM
is that thing your SUPPOSED to use in your twat to keep away that fishy smell. but you probably enjoy the aroma scotswoman
Spielberg will MURDER the haters with this movie... personally by Proman1984	May 10th, 2008 02:40:33 PM
Indy 4 will rock! Accept no immitators!
its 53 posts now btw by _SnakePlissken_	May 10th, 2008 02:41:18 PM

Die Hard - gore - profanity - catchphrase = by kolchak	May 10th, 2008 02:41:52 PM
generic, MTV edited, PG-13 cutaway fest.
Trevelyan by t40stunt	May 10th, 2008 02:42:20 PM
no worries .
Go Scotsman. I love you baby.. by Alex Trevelyan	May 10th, 2008 02:42:56 PM
Dont take any shit yo! I like where your head is at. StuntCock is a cock!
The John Hurt stuff by solobear	May 10th, 2008 02:43:05 PM
From the time I first saw RAIDERS in 1981, I always thought that the ABner Ravenwood thing was something that should have been explored in one of the sequels. I figured that he would somehow turn up, either tracking down Indy for help, or having Indy somehow stumble across him in some far corner of the globe. If all of what I'm reading is true, then the rampant rumors about John Hurt being Abner Ravenwood are rubbish. It's just another one of those ideas that has apparently drifted by the wayside.
I agree with the aforementioned sentiment by kolchak	May 10th, 2008 02:44:26 PM
that this is going to be panned on arrival, but in a few years we'll all love and accept it as cannon.
I agree with the aforementioned sentiment by kolchak	May 10th, 2008 02:44:32 PM
that this is going to be panned on arrival, but in a few years we'll all love and accept it as cannon.
First off, that wasn't McClane in LFODH... by poeticwarriorII	May 10th, 2008 02:44:46 PM
that was some bald twat they plucked out of the old folks home and placed beside a used Dildo. That movie was a huge stinking turd. Secondly, GL apparently didn't learn from SR. He must've thought that putting some stinking tampon in a movie playing the bastard son of a beloved character was a great idea. We now have trailer park trash Indy. Congratulations to the duo of stupidity for ruining one more of their cash cows.
Scotty... by Alex Trevelyan	May 10th, 2008 02:45:08 PM
Where did you procure said copy? Please share with the group. Are you MAx Speilberg by chance?
Scotsman by solobear	May 10th, 2008 02:46:11 PM
Okay-so somehow you've gotten your greedy mits on a copy of the movie. I envy you. Answer one question-I've heard a lot about surprise cameos in the film. Are they true, and who are they? And, please, no smart ass crap, just a straight answer. After all, Lucky Charms or not, SPOILERS is what this web site is founded on. So let loose!
PoeticWarrior2 is on the money yo... by Alex Trevelyan	May 10th, 2008 02:48:39 PM
I feel you baby. That Die HArd 4 was a con. Nonsense. Who is less talented and what my good friend. Len Wiseman or the gout faced GL?
Trevelyan by t40stunt	May 10th, 2008 02:49:08 PM
your right i am a cock and i bet you like where his head is at ...if you get my drift .
Scotsman by solobear	May 10th, 2008 02:49:14 PM
Thanks, man. I appreciate it. But I was so hoping for a grown up Short Round or Papa Jones appearance. I guess Sean Connnery wasn't rtying to pull the wool over everyones eyes by saying he was done with acting.
Scotty ... by Alex Trevelyan	May 10th, 2008 02:50:39 PM
You have them eating out of your hand. Nice! Again where did you get the copy?
SEAN CONNERY by solobear	May 10th, 2008 02:51:32 PM
I guess that I should have given up on Sean Connery when I saw him in that AVENGERS travesty that came out a few years back. I did always think that Connery would have been a kick-ass villain in a new Bond film, though. THAT would have been a masterstroke of casting.
The fanboys are unworthy of this movie by Proman1984	May 10th, 2008 02:52:01 PM
Fuck all (well, most) of you for being stupid dumbasses!
LOOK BOTTOM LINE IS... by hollywoodsummers	May 10th, 2008 02:52:08 PM
CRYSTAL SKULL will be a fun movie. I can say this because I'm working on it in some way (sorry, can't tell how) and I know the story, dialouge and scenes in order, as well as the score and I'm telling you IT'S NO PHANTOM MENACE! Are there some moments when people will say "I wish they hadn't gone there." YES. But that shouldn't detract from the overall fun of one last Indy adventure. People that go in with a pre-concievced notion of what the film "should" be are already sabotaging their experience. The film delivers some great action scenes and funny Indy moments. Is it over the top at times? YES, but all of the films were and that's the fun of them. They are E-ticket rides like Space Mountain at Disneyland... they are meant for thrills and chills and that's the point. George (for all his fuck ups) decided he wanted to make a B SCI-FI film with the Indiana character he created. Steven is a master at directing action and big hollywood set-pieces... what else doo you really think you're going to get? If you want a Star Wars comparison, at the least it will be as good as SITH and at best it will be like JEDI. If you really hate those tow films... don't waste your time, but if your like me and find those film exceptable for what they are and where they fit into their series, then go have fun with Indy one last time. I already have my ticket for the 22nd, see you there!
Crop Circle Spider Things?? Its the NAzCA lines you MORON!!!! by Ethan Big Nuts McKinley	May 10th, 2008 02:52:30 PM
You Know, Eric Von Daniken - Chariots Of the Gods, Teachers from the stars, alien races having Influence on ancient cultures, Anunaki. Google It dudes.............Its cool
STAR TREK by Ethan Big Nuts McKinley	May 10th, 2008 02:53:13 PM
MAYBE LIKE THE STAR TREK MOVIES... YOU KNOW ODD NUMBERS VS EVEN NUMBERS. MAYBE THE NEW LONG TITLED ONE ARE GOOD AND SHORT BAD??? (Indiana jones and the) RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE YOU KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IM TALKIN' ABOUT
StuntCock... by Alex Trevelyan	May 10th, 2008 02:55:18 PM
Fairplay for admitting you are ni fact a penis. More power to you .
The greatest adventure series of all time by kolchak	May 10th, 2008 02:55:30 PM
has a new entry...and all we can do is bitch? Before we even see it? Come on, gents. Be happy.
BRAVO HOLLYWOODSUMMERS!!! by solobear	May 10th, 2008 02:58:30 PM
Your words are full of filmfan wisdom, brother. Comparisons are a dangerous thing when it comes to opinions that are formed before a film's release. INDY 4 will be what it is. I put my trust in Spielberg, and will judge this after I see it on the 22nd. I have no gripes so far, but it sure seems like I am a minority in this. PLEASE, just give this film a chance, people. Don't go into it with negative feelings or expectations that are bound to be dashed. Just go into it to have a good time, and I'll wager that you will come out with a big smile on your faces and a familiar John Williams theme being hummed or whistled from your grinning face. That's what we all want!
eric von doniken raped my chilhood by LarryTheCableGuy	May 10th, 2008 03:01:13 PM

SUPRISES by solobear	May 10th, 2008 03:01:54 PM
I don't care if there are surprises are in this film or not. What I do know is that it's hard to come up with surprises in film sequels. I just want it to be good. That has nothing to do with the film being full of surprises.
Holy Fuck ,Man..... by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 03:04:03 PM
Get Firefox with built in Spell Check would you? Fuck.
scotsman keeps repeating the same points over and over by hollywoodsummers	May 10th, 2008 03:04:18 PM
he does not have a copy of the film. his descriptions are pretty close to certain things, but they lack details that even I know from working on it.
Part of AICN by solobear	May 10th, 2008 03:05:26 PM
At this point in the game, surprises would be few and far between anyway. Here we are less than two weks away from the film's release. Many who visit this site and participate in these talkback crave the spoilers. I am one. I WANT TO KNOW. I doubt that even Lucas and Spielberg would be able to hide THE BIG SURPRISE from the AICN filmfan community for very long. The word is always out there. It's just that sometimes it's a trick to find it and discern the true from the false.
B.S. control... by hollywoodsummers	May 10th, 2008 03:06:12 PM
Mac doesn't save Indy by sacrificing himself... that's just knot how it goes down man. Scotsman is full of shit.
And one post is enough... by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 03:07:56 PM
we get it. Or at least we may if you'd even attempt to spell for Fuck's sake.
Hey Hollywoodsummers... by Alex Trevelyan	May 10th, 2008 03:08:07 PM
I worked on it too for 16 weeks. He's close.
Hollywood Summers is legit by kolchak	May 10th, 2008 03:08:26 PM
You, sir, get my vote of confidence.
solobear by hollywoodsummers	May 10th, 2008 03:09:03 PM
I've been on this project for months and find my self whistling the Raiders March all the time... even my friends are like "damn, that song again?" I can't help it, I'm deep in Indy world right now. It's fun.
Alex Trevelyan by hollywoodsummers	May 10th, 2008 03:11:12 PM
He is close... but not spot on. I'm not saying he doesn't end up in some form of "hole" if that's what you call it.. but it's the sacrifice part you're off on.
Right On Hollywood! by solobear	May 10th, 2008 03:12:10 PM
The Day that the trailer first appeared and that theme came on I had tears in my eyes. I know that sounds lame, but I don't care. I guess it's a nostalgia thing. That and it's a damn good theme! I dig's my John Williams!
I'm not here to give any specifics... by hollywoodsummers	May 10th, 2008 03:13:42 PM
It wouldn't be ethical to do so, (in fact do you really want a play by play before you see a film?) But I will call B.S. here when I see it.
Hollywoodsummers... by Alex Trevelyan	May 10th, 2008 03:13:52 PM
Fair enough.
Trevelyan by t40stunt	May 10th, 2008 03:15:38 PM
you man ... so you worked on it for 16 weeks huh ? what'd you do on it ? i worked on it for about 6 weeks . hollywood obviously does post work but maybe i know you . just wondering
Hollywoodsummers... by solobear	May 10th, 2008 03:17:08 PM
If you are truly working in some form or other on the new INDY film, that I am envious of you. I got a taste of working in the film business many years ago. While in film school, I worked as a production assistant at a majjor special effects studio. It was the best job I ever had. I got to do what I'd always wanted. I got to show a bunch of people who said it would never happen how wrong they were, and I worked on a handful of major films. To this day I'm proud of that. Health issues interfered with me in the long run, but I hope that you feel the way I felt back then.
scotsman by hollywoodsummers	May 10th, 2008 03:17:56 PM
I'm assuming you have a few scenes, probably poor quality or unfinished VFX and I'm also guessing no audio. That might explain u'r misconceptions about certain points.
To Hollywoodsummers by DangerMan	May 10th, 2008 03:18:41 PM
What do you think of this review? I've read Flint's before and he tends to see things first. This sounded like a fair appraisal of what to expect, which is the expected.
Working in the film business... by solobear	May 10th, 2008 03:20:12 PM
One of the downfalls to working on films is that you don't always get to work on the best of projects. Of the four films I worked on, three were terrific and one was a steaming pile of crap. But I will say that it was always a blast.
I heard the gremlins make a cameo... by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 03:22:17 PM
Gizmo, caca.
t40stunt by Alex Trevelyan	May 10th, 2008 03:23:03 PM
Please I cant say what I did. I'd like to keep working on the show I'm currently on and the next on after that. HSummers i agree with your last statement. Sounds like an assembly edit, workprint or effects playblast.
Anyone who doesn't like Temple of doom.. by CeejayNightwing	May 10th, 2008 03:24:42 PM
is beyond reviewing an Indiana Jones movie for me so not a single word of his opinion means squat!
NEW TRAILER? Not really by Orionsangels	May 10th, 2008 03:28:29 PM
It's the last trailer with a few new shots thrown in. I don't understand what the point of releasing it is
DangerMan by hollywoodsummers	May 10th, 2008 03:30:28 PM
I think if he's really seen it he's pretty much giving a fair opinion of his feelings. I personally am not a big Star Treck fan, but the one I do own and like most is KAHN, so I think that says something good for the film. My personal thought is, go in to have fun and maybe nit pick a little after, but I'm sure it won't be that punch in the gut sick feeling I got after seeing PHANTOM MENACE the first time.
Yeah, the new trailer is pretty much the same as the last one. by thebearovingian	May 10th, 2008 03:30:53 PM
Meaning not very good.
solobear by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 03:31:32 PM
What films did you work on?
HERB... by solobear	May 10th, 2008 03:33:22 PM
I worked on SUPERMAN IV (YUKKK!), INNERSPACE, ROBOCOP and BEETLEJUICE.
thebearovingian by jarjarsjockstrap	May 10th, 2008 03:33:27 PM
And what IS good, eh? Wait, wait -- lemme guess: The Dark Knight? Damn, I'm good. Dude, get over it. Go watch National Treasure and Cage's house of 100 hair pieces.
solobear by hollywoodsummers	May 10th, 2008 03:33:43 PM
Doing what I do now is fun, and I know many people who even do what I do would love to get some of the projects that I've been lucky enough to work on... but that said, It's still work.. long hours, short deadlines, and the bigger the profile on a project, the more pressure to blow people away. I'd say it's a solid mix of fun and stress.
SUPERMAN IV by solobear	May 10th, 2008 03:37:25 PM
SUPERMAN IV had two major problems. First, the story sucked to begin with. And second, they got so far behind in the fx work that the fx were farmed out to a bunch of facilities so that they would be done in time. The work was rushed, and if you watch the film-which I haven't done for verrrrry Looooong time-there is very little consistency to the effects work. That was mainly due to Warner handing off the film Cannon Films, who were not exactly known for quality. They just wanted everything fast and cheap. They got that, but the quality suffered immensely.
Summers... by solobear	May 10th, 2008 03:40:28 PM
I hear you, Summers. It seems like the way things work nowadays, in this age of digital filmmaking, they want everything FAST. And that can add a lot of stress to an already heavy workload. Rush jobs are rarely fun. But it's still gotta feel like a priviledge to work on a film like INDIANA JONES.
I'm really looking forward to seeing the action again ! by barnaby jones	May 10th, 2008 03:42:38 PM
So many summers have past in a blur of kicks,jumps and explosions. Yet there was nothing to savour, so thank you Steven, George and Co. Thank you.
STUDIOS ARE SATAN!!! by solobear	May 10th, 2008 03:45:03 PM
The studios are the ones behind all this rush, rush, rush crap. When you watch movies, you can always tell that this or that would have been better if there had been just a little more time to do something right or fine-tune something. The studio pushes the producer, who pushes the director who pushes the cast and crew, and it can get downright ugly. But, sometimes the payoff is worth it. And then there are a few filmmakers who take the time to do things right-no matter what the studios say. They are the heroes.
Filmmaking by solobear	May 10th, 2008 03:48:39 PM
When you are participating in the making of a film, no matter what you're job, it can often take a lot of balls to stand up and say, "wait a second, this isn't right. We need to do..." and sometimes the people you work for are stand-up enough folks to say, "Okay, let's do that." And I can say, both from experience and from things I've heard from others, those kind of people are few and far between. And that is very unfortunate.
Kirk by solobear	May 10th, 2008 03:51:18 PM
And then he gets into one of his weird-ass fistfights, using some amalgamation of tumbling and martial arts. His shirt gets torn and he beats up the bad guy.
solobear by Herb West	May 10th, 2008 03:53:41 PM
So if you worked on SUPERMAN IV, then you are at least partly responsible for the death of the franchise which in turn led to Superman Returns and the great idea of a bastard son which in turn probably led to Shia the bastard son in Indy 4. So the way I see it, if Indy 4 fails, it's all because of you. Damn you, Damn you, Solo Bear. ;-)
solobear by hollywoodsummers	May 10th, 2008 03:53:42 PM
It has been special working on Indy. Not just for my love of the films, but because my father worked on the first trilogy and so it feels like a big piece of my family memories, going to see him work, going to wrap parties, etc. He's not working on this Indy, but my godfather is so that's kinda fun to work on a project that he's on too. We also did that on Munich.
Why the "Movie" competition?? by hoorayforeric	May 10th, 2008 03:54:01 PM
MARVEL fans hated SW fans when Spidey 1 and Ep. II came out within weeks of each other...now I think we have the same MARVEL geeks trashing everything not-comic related. Indy IV will out-gross Iron Man and Dark Knight...but all three won't gross as much as Sex in the City...and unfortunately...I'm not joking!
Indy by solobear	May 10th, 2008 03:54:49 PM
Indiana Jones, on the other hand, just draws his gun and shoots the bad guy. It's damn cool, and it doesn't take as much effort. A great method, especially when you're suffering from disintary.
Herb... by solobear	May 10th, 2008 03:57:34 PM
Sorry, man, I just did what I was told. But the SUPERMAN franchise was on its death bed long before I entered the picture. SUPERMAN III put him in the coffin. #4 was just the nails.
Question for Scotsman, Hollywoodsummers, Trevelyan... by Hooded Justice	May 10th, 2008 03:59:54 PM
...and those who have actually seen this movie. I think your answer will let us know if it's worth seeing or not. So far, I've found the trailers strangely unexciting - even a bit boring. Whether you agree with that impression or not, can you answer this: In your view, are the trailers downplaying the movie, i.e. deliberately showing the most uninteresting parts so as not to spoil the REAL fun? Or are the trailers showing some of the BEST and most exciting moments in the movie - in your opinion? You see, whether you personally like the trailers or not, you are in a good position to say hether or not they are truly representative of the movie. Thanking you in advance.
The Superman Disease... by solobear	May 10th, 2008 04:00:43 PM
The core of the problems with the SUPERMAN film lie with several people.

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